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351Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:00 am

Doc

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Why do you guys comment or discuss what you have little to no knowledge of? I've only some of the recent posts in this thread but I'd like to clear up a few things ...

First of all, humans are not perfect. The only being that is "perfect" is Allah (swt). He is without fault, or err and that's basically the end of that discussion.

And for those "unnecessary body parts", how do you know that they're actually unnecessary? Not to long ago, the human spleen was thought to be a vestigial (without function, in other words) organ but now an overwhelming amount of evidence soundly debunks that claim. The same with the human appendix, which we now know plays a role in the immune system.

352Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:04 am

preid1220

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Sayfullah wrote:Why do you guys comment or discuss what you have little to no knowledge of? I've only some of the recent posts in this thread but I'd like to clear up a few things ...

First of all, humans are not perfect. The only being that is "perfect" is Allah (swt). He is without fault, or err and that's basically the end of that discussion.

And for those "unnecessary body parts", how do you know that they're actually unnecessary? Not to long ago, the human spleen was thought to be a vestigial (without function, in other words) organ but now an overwhelming amount of evidence soundly debunks that claim. The same with the human appendix, which we now know plays a role in the immune system.

if you cut of a toe you will live, so that toe was unnecessary. if you cut off MN you will live, so MN are unnecessary. sayf humans were once ignorant but in the Second millennium we have learned so much that we actually know for a fact that items are useless.

353Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:13 am

Doc

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preid1220 wrote:
Sayfullah wrote:Why do you guys comment or discuss what you have little to no knowledge of? I've only some of the recent posts in this thread but I'd like to clear up a few things ...

First of all, humans are not perfect. The only being that is "perfect" is Allah (swt). He is without fault, or err and that's basically the end of that discussion.

And for those "unnecessary body parts", how do you know that they're actually unnecessary? Not to long ago, the human spleen was thought to be a vestigial (without function, in other words) organ but now an overwhelming amount of evidence soundly debunks that claim. The same with the human appendix, which we now know plays a role in the immune system.

if you cut of a toe you will live, so that toe was unnecessary. if you cut off MN you will live, so MN are unnecessary. sayf humans were once ignorant but in the Second millennium we have learned so much that we actually know for a fact that items are useless.

wow so you think if you remove something that doesn't cause death its useless?

354Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:25 am

Steve

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I move that male nipples be called mipples from now on.

Merry christmas

355Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:33 am

The Banker

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preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:^^^ watch it kid....
what false truths would that be??

other than the fact that we share the same age, the false truth is that of humans being molded after perfection. we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us! it's human greed that drives then to war, it is our foolishness that leads to so much death, it is humans that kills humans. How can a creature that kills its self truly be perfect, kid?
1. ur still younger than me
2. ur such a rude boy which proves ur still a kid mentally
3. exactly my point about what i was saying... we are perfect physically but totally INPERFECT mentally...

356Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:49 am

Ahmed

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preid1220 wrote:we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us!

Speak for yourself man.

357Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:04 pm

The Banker

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^^^ agreed

358Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:13 pm

Fangy

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Honestly, preid is the most correct here, but his reasoning is weird. I can cut off my testicles and live, but they're quite necessary.

359Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:27 pm

preid1220

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Mistress of Salamz wrote:
preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:^^^ watch it kid....
what false truths would that be??

other than the fact that we share the same age, the false truth is that of humans being molded after perfection. we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us! it's human greed that drives then to war, it is our foolishness that leads to so much death, it is humans that kills humans. How can a creature that kills its self truly be perfect, kid?
1. ur still younger than me
2. ur such a rude boy which proves ur still a kid mentally
3. exactly my point about what i was saying... we are perfect physically but totally INPERFECT mentally...

My god you are immature, just admit you are wrong and we do not need some of our body parts. we are imperfect beings and i dong give a dam about what your religion says. May i redirect you to the post about mountains

360Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:10 pm

The Banker

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preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:
preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:^^^ watch it kid....
what false truths would that be??

other than the fact that we share the same age, the false truth is that of humans being molded after perfection. we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us! it's human greed that drives then to war, it is our foolishness that leads to so much death, it is humans that kills humans. How can a creature that kills its self truly be perfect, kid?
1. ur still younger than me
2. ur such a rude boy which proves ur still a kid mentally
3. exactly my point about what i was saying... we are perfect physically but totally INPERFECT mentally...

My god you are immature, just admit you are wrong and we do not need some of our body parts. we are imperfect beings and i dong give a dam about what your religion says. May i redirect you to the post about mountains
i will not admit that i'm wrong... coz i ain't.
if u wanna believe that i'm wrong then go ahead... no one is stopping u
but i have the right to believe what i want man...
sheeeeeeesh

361Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:33 pm

Ahmed

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preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:
preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:^^^ watch it kid....
what false truths would that be??

other than the fact that we share the same age, the false truth is that of humans being molded after perfection. we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us! it's human greed that drives then to war, it is our foolishness that leads to so much death, it is humans that kills humans. How can a creature that kills its self truly be perfect, kid?
1. ur still younger than me
2. ur such a rude boy which proves ur still a kid mentally
3. exactly my point about what i was saying... we are perfect physically but totally INPERFECT mentally...

My god you are immature, just admit you are wrong and we do not need some of our body parts. we are imperfect beings and i dong give a dam about what your religion says. May i redirect you to the post about mountains

"Oh! Now you done it! Now you have fudged the bucket and said too many words to know!"

Cut off your useless body parts [legs,arms, hair, you don't need those to live] and throw them in a bucket and take a picture of them and post it here Pried. Then I'll believe your nonsense Wink

362Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:43 pm

Doc

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Mistress of Salamz wrote:
preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:^^^ watch it kid....
what false truths would that be??

other than the fact that we share the same age, the false truth is that of humans being molded after perfection. we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us! it's human greed that drives then to war, it is our foolishness that leads to so much death, it is humans that kills humans. How can a creature that kills its self truly be perfect, kid?
1. ur still younger than me
2. ur such a rude boy which proves ur still a kid mentally
3. exactly my point about what i was saying... we are perfect physically but totally INPERFECT mentally...

nope .. we're not perfect in any way

363Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:43 pm

The Banker

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in what way sayf..?

364Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:45 pm

Ahmed

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Sayfullah wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:
preid1220 wrote:
Mistress of Salamz wrote:^^^ watch it kid....
what false truths would that be??

other than the fact that we share the same age, the false truth is that of humans being molded after perfection. we are twisted disgusting animals, each and every one of us! it's human greed that drives then to war, it is our foolishness that leads to so much death, it is humans that kills humans. How can a creature that kills its self truly be perfect, kid?
1. ur still younger than me
2. ur such a rude boy which proves ur still a kid mentally
3. exactly my point about what i was saying... we are perfect physically but totally INPERFECT mentally...

nope .. we're not perfect in any way

Yup, we are perfect physically.

"لَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنسَانَ فِي أَحْسَنِ تَقْوِيمٍ"

"We have indeed created man in the best of moulds,"(95:4 Qur'an)

365Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:49 pm

Doc

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that doesn't mean we're perfect physically ..

366Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:57 pm

The Banker

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in what way are we inperfect sayf?... i'm talking physically by da way...

367Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:59 pm

Fangy

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you know, diseases, birth defects, being obese... those things

368Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:01 pm

The Banker

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^^^ they are all due to our surrounding environment, no?

369Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:01 pm

Fangy

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Yes. But those are imperfections.

370Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:14 pm

Steve

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for a body to be perfect you have to know its purpose. For example an ant eater is good at eating ants, an eagle is about perfect for flying... humans are perfect for what?

371Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:21 pm

Fangy

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If people were invulnerable to everything, humans would be perfect.

372Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:28 pm

The Banker

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@ Steve:: (Quran 51:56) "And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me”
وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ

@ Fang:: ok... how would u improve da human body physically???

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374Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:19 pm

Ahmed

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Would that really be the problem of the reigion? Or would it be the problem of the masses?

375Learn about Islam! - Page 15 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:22 pm

Steve

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Mistress of Salamz wrote:@ Steve:: (Quran 51:56) "And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me”

so we shouldn't work, and we shouldn't learn new things because we already know all we need to worship.

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