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Learn about Islam!

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26Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:35 pm

Steve

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but thats because we have all of these distractions from life now, tv and computers are no good if you want to get something done

27Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:37 pm

Ahmed

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Ok, either way, what are you asking exactly?

28Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:39 pm

Steve

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nothing as of yet, i dont have a good question atm Razz Although if you want something to talk about i think some of those signs could really apply to almost any time

29Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:41 pm

Ahmed

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Steve wrote:nothing as of yet, i dont have a good question atm Razz Although if you want something to talk about i think some of those signs could really apply to almost any time

Not really :s

Anyhow, whenever you get a question ask, straight away. Razz

30Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:47 pm

Steve

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i ment in the first article..

1. Khasf meaning that there will be three places where the earth will
open up and men will be buried alive. One will be in the west, one in
the east and one in Arabia.

3. There will be a large exploitation of illiteracy.

4. There will be great use of alcohol and adultery to such a shameful extent that it will be as common as donkeys eating grass.

6. There will be a lot of goods.

8. Men will listen to their women and not their parents. They will stay
in close contact with their friends and stay away from their parents.

9. There will be great use of music.

10. People will curse their ancestors and speak ill of them.

11. The wrongdoers and non-capable will be made leaders.

12. Degraded people, who could not find cheap clothing, will own large mansions.

14. To stay in Islam will be so difficult as it is difficult to hold
hot ash in the hand. Up till the extent that a person will go the
cemetery and wish that they were in that grave.


i think these have arguably been seen alot through history

31Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:39 am

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Steve, these things have indeed been occuring, but it is more apparent than ever that they can be applied to this age, than any other! (even though I have not heard that number one occured yet)

32Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:49 am

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i interpreted #1 as earthquakes, and there has been some incredibly devastating ones in the past, and i can only think about the one about the poor applying to this age exclusivly.. i think the others can be interpreted in a way that can apply to most of our history

33Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:38 pm

Ahmed

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Whats number 1?

34Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:34 pm

Steve

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Ahmed the IV wrote:Whats number 1?

Steve wrote:
1. Khasf meaning that there will be three places where the earth will
open up and men will be buried alive. One will be in the west, one in
the east and one in Arabia.

if you were in a particully large earthquake and burried alive or lost all comunication, you may think the end had come

35Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:38 pm

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Actually, it is like an earthquake but splits the entire continent.

36Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:14 pm

Steve

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i normally think due to translations and old ways sometimes things dont come out exactly as their written, like saying 70,000 jews, wouldnt think it would be exactly 70,000 or it might be no where near.. like in alot of traditional chinesse storys they say things like 10,000 men but actully theyre saying an uncountable ammount or an impossible ammount

37Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:31 pm

Ahmed

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Here is a website with a translation to the Quran[/url]Ok...

Steve, the QUarn to Muslims is like the Bible to Christians(you know, holy books)

Here is a website with a translation to the Quran

Maybe, if you read a part of it, you'll start getting questions....

38Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:47 pm

Steve

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i understand the Qur'an is your authority, but i allways think the holy texts need to be interpreted to be understood, i could quite bible passages but that doesn't mean i know what they are saying.

Do you know the story of noah's arc?

basically a man is told by God the world is going to be flooded to wash away all the bad things and tells him to build a huge boat, gather two of every animal and be ready...

I Recently was talking to someone who said he actully heard a translation that said his world will be flooded, meaning his town.

39Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:58 pm

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Steve wrote:i understand the Qur'an is your authority, but i allways think the holy texts need to be interpreted to be understood, i could quite bible passages but that doesn't mean i know what they are saying.

Do you know the story of noah's arc?

basically a man is told by God the world is going to be flooded to wash away all the bad things and tells him to build a huge boat, gather two of every animal and be ready...

I Recently was talking to someone who said he actully heard a translation that said his world will be flooded, meaning his town.
Yes, Prophet Noah is in Islam. And I know his story.

40Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:17 pm

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my point was interpretation can compleatly change the meaning of something in a way im more intrested in everyones individual (or not) interpretation of islam and the Qu'ran

41Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:36 pm

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Steve wrote:my point was interpretation can compleatly change the meaning of something in a way im more intrested in everyones individual (or not) interpretation of islam and the Qu'ran
No, the Quran is interpretted correctly. In the english translation, it gets changed etc. because they might have found a better way to explain it etc. But the Arabic one is the origianl, never changed and is interrpretd in one way.

42Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:45 pm

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well i know the arabic hasnt changed but i dont think arabic would be your first launguage and even if it was, launguage evolves over time and how do you know the translation between arabic and english is perfect, Im not picking holes in the Qur'an i just question sources, especially if they are important

43Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:55 pm

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Steve wrote:well i know the arabic hasnt changed but i dont think arabic would be your first launguage and even if it was, launguage evolves over time and how do you know the translation between arabic and english is perfect, Im not picking holes in the Qur'an i just question sources, especially if they are important


Well since Im Egyptian it should be...but unfortunately it isnt. Its my second language.

Also no, the interpretation of the QUran never changed...and will never changed.

It isnt perfect. Tahst why i said the english changes. Also it will never be perfect. Its impossibel to translate the Quran from Arabic to a different language perfectly. Its merely a trasnaltion to give the english readers, the closest possible meaning of the verse.

Its ok.

BTW, till now you are asking techincal questions...when will you actually ask questions about the religion



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44Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:08 pm

Steve

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sooner or later Razz I'm just finding out what i will be finding out for now

45Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:14 pm

Ahmed

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Ok Razz , anytime. Very Happy

46Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:43 pm

Dark Flame99966

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Any more questions?

47Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Thu May 08, 2008 8:55 pm

Ahmed

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I guess everyone is an expert then Razz

48Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Thu May 08, 2008 9:19 pm

Dark Flame99966

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Everyone is...and so is King Lion Heart!

49Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Thu May 08, 2008 9:20 pm

Ahmed

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Whos king lion heart? Do you mean that warrior?

50Learn about Islam! - Page 2 Empty Re: Learn about Islam! Thu May 08, 2008 9:21 pm

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King of I think England in the Crusades

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