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Islam is the Truth. Do you object?
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Re: Islam is the Truth. Do you object?
those prophets had no choice in being associated with Islam, doesn't that strike you as odd?
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those prophets (PBUT) were preaching the same stuff as what Mohammed (PBUH) was preaching...
Mohammed (PBUH) only became a prophet when the previous prophet's (PBUT) teachings were changed by their followers...
Mohammed (PBUH) only became a prophet when the previous prophet's (PBUT) teachings were changed by their followers...
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well how can they also be preaching the same message for Judaism and Christianity when they are 3 very different messages, and why are we promised no more prophets when the message could change again?
where is the new prophet to set the muslim extremists right?
where is the new prophet to set the muslim extremists right?
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1. the message WAS the same... their followers changed it (re-read my previous post.. not the use of past tense)
2. muslim extremists are not muslims... they're crazy freaks who hide behind the mask of Islam....
3. Mohammed (PBUH) was the last prophet...
2. muslim extremists are not muslims... they're crazy freaks who hide behind the mask of Islam....
3. Mohammed (PBUH) was the last prophet...
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but you havent told me why he was the lastDa Marwa wrote:1. the message WAS the same... their followers changed it (re-read my previous post.. not the use of past tense)
2. muslim extremists are not muslims... they're crazy freaks who hide behind the mask of Islam....
3. Mohammed (PBUH) was the last prophet...
and why there isn't intervention to set them right
and sure, you say the message was the same but they are the same prophets, and their message is used so differently.
i know you said the message has changed but there are different kinds of Muslims today and no-one is showing up to fix it.
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"but you havent told me why he was the last"
coz Allah SWT said so.. being a prophet is when u get a revelation from god so it only seems right that god decides who is the last prophet
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i'm losing ya on the rest o.O
coz Allah SWT said so.. being a prophet is when u get a revelation from god so it only seems right that god decides who is the last prophet
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i'm losing ya on the rest o.O
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Da Marwa wrote:"but you havent told me why he was the last"
coz Allah SWT said so.. being a prophet is when u get a revelation from god so it only seems right that god decides who is the last prophet
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i'm losing ya on the rest o.O
wasn't Allah speaking through Mohammed? so its because he said he was the last... (see how i dont really trust him?)
intervention to correct the muslims who are reading the books wrong, to unify the religion again... you need another prophet.
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Re: Islam is the Truth. Do you object?
Allah SWT wasn't speaking through no one.. the Quran is Allah's words and Allah's words alone, and its in the Quran where he says that Mohammed PBUH is the last prophet...
what Mohammed PBUH said is called Hadith...
"to unify the religion again... you need another prophet."
nope.. the message is clear, if they can't see the message then its their problem...
what Mohammed PBUH said is called Hadith...
"to unify the religion again... you need another prophet."
nope.. the message is clear, if they can't see the message then its their problem...
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no, its allah's problem, and a problem he fixed before with prophets.
i thought Mohammed was speaking allah's words and other people were writing them down...
i thought Mohammed was speaking allah's words and other people were writing them down...
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Allah SWT taught Mohammed PBUH about islam... Mohammed then taught it to others
"no, its allah's problem, and a problem he fixed before with prophets. "
why need prophets when the true message is in front of ur eyes?!!?!!
"no, its allah's problem, and a problem he fixed before with prophets. "
why need prophets when the true message is in front of ur eyes?!!?!!
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Re: Islam is the Truth. Do you object?
because the message is going wrong, our language has evolved and interpretations have become varied.
that is why you need a guide.
that is why you need a guide.
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Arabic is still the same man... nothing changed..
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people have to translate arabic into their native tongue, and those languages change, meaning the translations are lost.
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the Quran is translated into English well Steve
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yes, but im saying words and meanings change, not in arabic but in english, and in every other language in the world.
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well learn arabic then lolz
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learning a language means learning the translations, which change... thats what im saying
you probably did french, what did grande mean to you before you knew it meant big? It was meaningless, but now you see it and think something is big.
well the word big could go out of use in the english language, hardly anyone uses the word stupendious anymore for example. so the words themselves change, and even though the arabic is the same, if it isn't your first language it can be lost.
you probably did french, what did grande mean to you before you knew it meant big? It was meaningless, but now you see it and think something is big.
well the word big could go out of use in the english language, hardly anyone uses the word stupendious anymore for example. so the words themselves change, and even though the arabic is the same, if it isn't your first language it can be lost.
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the Quran isn't hard to read man
i can read and understand it... and my arabic SUCKS!
i can read and understand it... and my arabic SUCKS!
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perhaps you are reading it wrong...
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nope i can read arabic.. i'm not stupid
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im not saying your stupid... im not stupid either.
i just dont trust in religion anymore...
i just dont trust in religion anymore...
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for me personally life would be dull, grey, boring and meaningless without religion...
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the colours of life are brighter now i stopped trusting in an afterlife.
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so what ur purpose in life then?
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Re: Islam is the Truth. Do you object?
oh normal things, the bottom lines are enjoying it and leaving a legacy