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    Islam is the Truth. Do you object?

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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:41 pm

    those prophets had no choice in being associated with Islam, doesn't that strike you as odd?
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:45 pm

    those prophets (PBUT) were preaching the same stuff as what Mohammed (PBUH) was preaching...
    Mohammed (PBUH) only became a prophet when the previous prophet's (PBUT) teachings were changed by their followers...
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:50 pm

    well how can they also be preaching the same message for Judaism and Christianity when they are 3 very different messages, and why are we promised no more prophets when the message could change again?

    where is the new prophet to set the muslim extremists right?
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:59 pm

    1. the message WAS the same... their followers changed it (re-read my previous post.. not the use of past tense)
    2. muslim extremists are not muslims... they're crazy freaks who hide behind the mask of Islam....
    3. Mohammed (PBUH) was the last prophet...
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:08 pm

    Da Marwa wrote:1. the message WAS the same... their followers changed it (re-read my previous post.. not the use of past tense)
    2. muslim extremists are not muslims... they're crazy freaks who hide behind the mask of Islam....
    3. Mohammed (PBUH) was the last prophet...
    but you havent told me why he was the last
    and why there isn't intervention to set them right
    and sure, you say the message was the same but they are the same prophets, and their message is used so differently.

    i know you said the message has changed but there are different kinds of Muslims today and no-one is showing up to fix it.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:16 pm

    "but you havent told me why he was the last"
    coz Allah SWT said so.. being a prophet is when u get a revelation from god so it only seems right that god decides who is the last prophet
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    i'm losing ya on the rest o.O
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:20 pm

    Da Marwa wrote:"but you havent told me why he was the last"
    coz Allah SWT said so.. being a prophet is when u get a revelation from god so it only seems right that god decides who is the last prophet
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    i'm losing ya on the rest o.O

    wasn't Allah speaking through Mohammed? so its because he said he was the last... (see how i dont really trust him?)

    intervention to correct the muslims who are reading the books wrong, to unify the religion again... you need another prophet.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:25 pm

    Allah SWT wasn't speaking through no one.. the Quran is Allah's words and Allah's words alone, and its in the Quran where he says that Mohammed PBUH is the last prophet...
    what Mohammed PBUH said is called Hadith...

    "to unify the religion again... you need another prophet."
    nope.. the message is clear, if they can't see the message then its their problem...
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:27 pm

    no, its allah's problem, and a problem he fixed before with prophets.

    i thought Mohammed was speaking allah's words and other people were writing them down...
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:30 pm

    Allah SWT taught Mohammed PBUH about islam... Mohammed then taught it to others Wink

    "no, its allah's problem, and a problem he fixed before with prophets. "
    why need prophets when the true message is in front of ur eyes?!!?!!
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:32 pm

    because the message is going wrong, our language has evolved and interpretations have become varied.

    that is why you need a guide.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:35 pm

    Arabic is still the same man... nothing changed..
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:36 pm

    people have to translate arabic into their native tongue, and those languages change, meaning the translations are lost.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:38 pm

    the Quran is translated into English well Steve Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:40 pm

    yes, but im saying words and meanings change, not in arabic but in english, and in every other language in the world.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:41 pm

    well learn arabic then lolz Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:49 pm

    learning a language means learning the translations, which change... thats what im saying Razz

    you probably did french, what did grande mean to you before you knew it meant big? It was meaningless, but now you see it and think something is big.

    well the word big could go out of use in the english language, hardly anyone uses the word stupendious anymore for example. so the words themselves change, and even though the arabic is the same, if it isn't your first language it can be lost.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:51 pm

    the Quran isn't hard to read man Rolling Eyes
    i can read and understand it... and my arabic SUCKS!
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:52 pm

    perhaps you are reading it wrong...
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:57 pm

    nope i can read arabic.. i'm not stupid Smile
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:01 pm

    im not saying your stupid... im not stupid either.

    i just dont trust in religion anymore...
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:02 pm

    for me personally life would be dull, grey, boring and meaningless without religion...
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:03 pm

    the colours of life are brighter now i stopped trusting in an afterlife.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:04 pm

    so what ur purpose in life then?
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:07 pm

    oh normal things, the bottom lines are enjoying it and leaving a legacy

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