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    Post by den denz Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:00 am

    To show that Jesus went through everything without ever sinning, if he skipped straight to adult hood his death wouldn't have been of any significance.
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:15 am

    He could have been created as a baby then....and not born.
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    Also I am still wiating for Ladien to answer about Jesus(AS) being a person.
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    Post by Doc Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:46 pm

    lol we're allowed to have religious debates here?
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:18 pm

    Of course!!! Lol, how could you ask such a question I am hungry for a religious debate.

    Who told you, you can't?
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    Post by Hassan Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:58 pm

    Yes, Sayf, but only by being respectful and proving your point. And Denz, I do not understand how this could relate to his death (not in the direct way, anyways).
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:04 pm

    Sayf deabtes pretty good Hassan. We used to debate on this other forum Smile

    (I gave a better debate though Razz )
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    Post by Doc Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:15 pm

    Please, I'd destroy you guys if I got involved in this debate, you don't want me in it :p

    Ahmed should know best since I just recently decimated him in our last debate lol ..
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:22 pm

    Then please join this debate...the only problem though is that there is no main debator on the Christain side Razz

    P.S.: I think the beard topic became a debate amd I am crushing you Razz
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    Post by Hassan Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:40 pm

    Guys, stay on topic. Smile My partial answer to Ladien's latest post is that God had sent prophets before, recognized by both Islam and Christianity, (and Judaism). So divinity can present its message through a human.
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:47 pm

    I'm back. Yes, Jesus (God's son) was human. God couldn't have Jesus himself so he asked Mary to have him.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:50 pm

    Ladien wrote:...God couldn't have Jesus himself

    I thought Christains believed that God could do anything?
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:54 pm

    mostly everything
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:56 pm

    So you are telling me that there are some things that God can't do?!
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:58 pm

    yes, God can't sin either.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:00 pm

    Thats because that is bad. But I am talking ability-wise God can't do some things?

    I think a lot of Christaisn would disagree with you on this one.

    Neverless we will continue:

    Why did God need a Son?
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:10 pm

    To have a way to get humans into heaven to live there afterlives with him and so they don't go to hell.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:13 pm

    Couldn't he just do that with a human , as in give him messages. Like for example Moses(AS) , God gave him his messages to give his people yet he was not his son....
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:18 pm

    The sacrifice (Jesus) had to have no sin in them and all humans (other than Jesus) has sin in them.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:19 pm

    But you said earlier that God is not able to sin. And you just said that Jesus did not ever sin, does that mean that Jesus(AS) is God?
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:20 pm

    yes, God, Jesus, and the holy spirt are all part of God and are all sinless.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:21 pm

    How could Jesus(AS) be God, if you said earlier that Jesus(AS) is the son of God?
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:26 pm

    he's God, it's possible. He can do mostly everything. Since God wasn't actually the father (Joseph was) so God technically isn't the son of God. He choose Joseph and Mary to have Jesus.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:29 pm

    Wait! So now you are saying that Joseph and Mary got Jesus....I thought in Christainity Mary was a virgin?
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    Post by Ladien Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:30 pm

    till she had Jesus.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:33 pm

    Wow, I always thought in Christainity they believed in Mary's virginity.
    And again I think lots of CHristains would disgaree with you on this one.
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    Neverless, how could someone be God's son if he was gotten by two parents...according to you?

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