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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:13 pm

    I think we can first and foremost agree that it is the leadership in the middle east that is most responsible ... you either have american puppets who are used by america and then killed when she doesn't like them anymore (despite feeding and putting them in power in the name of democracy) in order to try and keep a positive image with the people there and its own people ... but usually to little avail since most there see america is an evil warmongering entity ... or you have those like the leaders of Iran who are vilified day and night for not conforming to american interests ...

    the first kind of leaders are secular and it is within these secular regimes that we've seen the most problems in ... Saddam Hussein was a secularist nationalist ... Khaddafi was the same ... and so was Hosni Mubarak ... but the second kind, despite being sanctioned and vilified to death, is more prosperous ....

    So in light of all of this info, can anyone really conclude that religion is to blame? I mean religion did ally itself with 2 countries both at war with each other and supply them both with weapons so they could kill each other, now did it? religion isn't constantly invading these countries just because it thinks it owns the world, now is it?
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:26 pm

    What second kind are you talking about?

    In case you are talking about the 3 leaders. Actually Mubarak is also a filthy illegitimate. He sent all his money outside the country however, to the poor European countries.
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:19 pm

    LOL
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:43 pm

    I was being sarcastic in case you didnt realize.
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:54 pm

    LOL i thought it was true


    bro he'd probably beat the snot out of you in a fight
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:58 pm

    Umm?

    He looks like Ramses II atm...you ever saw the mummy and how he looks like atm? They look like twins now.
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:11 pm

    so im guessing youd end him in a cage match? Very Happy
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:15 pm

    Dude...a child could. Are you not aware he is a 82 year old mummy?
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:16 pm

    and ur like 140 lbs bro LOL
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:22 pm

    I wish LMAO
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:24 pm

    WOW ur less than that?!
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:26 pm

    Damn, stop making fun of me. You think I like this crap? I want to be like 155 then Im perfect.
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:28 pm

    umm no lol

    155 is still skinny ... im 155 i mean lol
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:35 pm

    No its not noob. BMI wise 155 is perfect for a height of 5'11.
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    Post by Doc Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:52 pm

    LOL
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    Post by Ahmed Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:53 pm

    STFU. So inconsiderate.
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    Post by Ameer 2 Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:12 pm

    No it isn't.

    Nuff said.
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    Post by preid1220 Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:05 pm

    the problem isn't religion, it's extremist.
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    Post by Doc Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:43 pm

    yeah, the extremist barbarians occupying europe and america are the problem
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    Post by preid1220 Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:15 pm

    Talwar Khan wrote:yeah, the extremist barbarians occupying europe and america are the problem

    although there may be extremist elements in the United States and Europe, I feel it's more accurate to say the carnage and disparity in the middle east is caused by local elements.

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