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    Post by Fangy Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:54 am

    Discussion goes here.
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    Post by Fangy Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:55 am

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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:03 am

    No.
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:03 am

    But it already is legal. Roe Vs. Wade
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    Post by Fangy Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:07 am

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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:09 am

    And? You can still have an abortion, simply that there are more regulations.
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    Post by Fangy Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:14 am

    I don't even know.

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    Post by Steve Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:46 am

    i think its good to be legal, it doesn't mean people have to do it, just makes at an option.

    It is an option thats always been there, i remember hearing about people throwing themselves down stairs or doing terrible things with knitting needles... wouldn't you rather it was as safe as possible? and the choice lies with the parents, not their government.
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:08 pm

    Well using your logic, when a murder happens, then it should be between the victims family and the murder or his family...they "avenge" themselves like in medieval times.

    That's chaos.
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    Post by Steve Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:07 pm

    No, thats completely different. See if you read my post i didn't say legalise murder.

    i suppose your trying to be clever about when life starts, but lets take that seriously for a moment. So sperm and eggs are of course alive and the only way for us to save those lives is for men to be having sex pretty much non-stop... now the ratio of men to women is roughly equal around the world but women will only be able to use one egg a month (and less when pregnant), men will get through an uncountable amount of sperm, there must be some loss of life.
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:30 pm

    Except a sperm is not alive in the true sense, it does not reproduce (without fertilizing something). It is a sex cell, it has the potential to be life. However, a fertilized egg WILL be a fully grown human being if it is not killed. That's why you can say a fertilized egg is a human life, but a sperm is not.
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    Post by Fangy Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:38 pm

    But a sperm is alive... You can't argue with that.
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    Post by Ameer 2 Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:39 pm

    I believe it should most certainly be legalised in the case of a rape victim, and I doubt any moral outrage would result should the life be terminated before the respiratory system develops.

    However, if the feisty pair already planned on getting a baby, it's the responsibility of the mother to hold on to her commitments and leave the rest to fate.
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    Post by Fangy Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:41 pm

    What if the mother gets pregnant and the father leaves her?
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    Post by Ameer 2 Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:47 pm

    There's always the marriage allowance, and her family by her side to help her with all the expenses. As for the father, he can rot in hell Smile
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:16 pm

    I'm not talking about the sperm and egg. I'm talking about the zygote.
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:28 pm

    A sperm does not have all the properties of life
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    Post by Ameer 2 Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:30 pm

    Well a sperm does have a massive mitochondria, cus it needs alot of energy for the big journey ya know.
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:00 pm

    So you're just a mitochondria?
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    Post by The Banker Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:08 pm

    a zygote is basically a child which isn't fully formed yet, it IS ALIVE... unlike sex cells which are cells, they're alive in the same way ur skin and liver cells are.. they don't die, they're DENATURED

    and just cuz an embryo is venerable doesn't mean we have the right to kill them

    BUT, yes i think abortion should be legal.. ONLY to rape victims tho
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    Post by Steve Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:18 pm

    alright well my sex all the time point is still valid, because eggs are certainly lost over time.

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    human life should be cherished, but at times pregnant people aren't ready for a child. They should not be forced into parenthood just because their condom broke or she forgot to take the pill.

    most of us will probably be in the situation one day where abortion is an option and i hope its not the only option that makes sense... but right now i feel better knowing that its legal.
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:43 pm

    Eggs arent alive.

    That's not a valid reason to kill someone. Just cuz "they're not ready".
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    Post by Ameer 2 Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:04 pm

    Ahmed IV wrote:So you're just a mitochondria?


    I was trying to make a point that the key qualities an embryo at its early stage has is retained in the sperm. Even then it shouldn't determine that it's morally wrong for an early abortion to take place...would you consider ejaculation as murder? However, when the embryo's senses have developed, it undoubtedly becomes murder.
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    Post by Doc Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:11 pm

    i forgot but after a certain amount of weeks in the womb is embryo technically becomes "alive"
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    Post by Ahmed Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:21 pm

    I think it's 3 weeks?

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