Someone posted this on sal's. I'm just copypastaing.

Hi guys: I was hoping that since this forum has a good number of Muslims on it, one could explain something for me.

First of all, I want to say what I THINK I know, so if I'm wrong, please correct me because that will put my confusion to rest:

Firstly, Muslims can not eat pork products at all.
Secondly, Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet of Allah, and they even believe in the virgin Birth of Jesus, and that he was a messenger of Allah. They just do not believe Jesus WAS God/(Allah), and miracles Jesus performed were done by Allah through Jesus, not by Jesus.

If those two things are correct, I must ask why Muslims still can not eat pork when Jesus expressly gave permission for people to eat what was previously considered unclean in the Jewish Torah. (Because I'm under the impression these are the same animals.)

I am not trying to disprove Religion or the Islamic Faith in any way, I am merely asking out of genuinely curiosity, as the two don't add up in my mind.

3 months later we still haven't trolled sals

can you answer the question?

Where's the proof that Jesus said this?

Where's the proof that anything that happened in a holy book is real? Figure it out yourself.

Jesus (as per the belief of both christians and muslims) confirmed the Torah's doctrines and principles, whilst abrogating a few of its more strict laws. Other than that, all the commandmants of God in the Torah had to be obeyed as Jesus is supposed to have said in Matthew's gospel. And never did Jesus permit Pork in the message he brought.

Besides that, Islam confirmed a divine origin for both Judaism and Christianity whilst abrogating some of the rules and customs of both. The Gospels were written over a century after Jesus's departure and much of the material isn't considered reliable (especially the other books of the New Testament excluding the four Gospels). We believe Jesus was given a holy scripture by God but this scripture is non-existent in the New Testament and now all we have are biographies of Jesus' life; and we certainly don't ascribe a divine authority to these writings.

The problem is here:

If those two things are correct, I must ask why Muslims still can not eat pork when Jesus expressly gave permission for people to eat what was previously considered unclean in the Jewish Torah. (Because I'm under the impression these are the same animals.)

Bible claims that Jesus said that he is God and to worship him. Hence we can't believe what such a book says.

^ Just because you don't believe it means squat dude, the general argument I usually is that god created all the animals of the earth for man, and as such man should not limit what god has given him. Personally, I just don't see anything truly wrong with pork, It's just another animal such as cattle, fish, or birds.

Just because you don't believe it means squat dude, the general argument I usually is that god created all the animals of the earth for man, and as such man should not limit what god has given him.

It's the only thing that matters.

Secondly, Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet of Allah, and they even believe in the virgin Birth of Jesus, and that he was a messenger of Allah.

That's why we don't believe that Jesus said what you claim.

Islam is a very simple religion. No complexities. Alcohol is said in the Qur'an to have benefits (believe it or not) but the negatives outweigh the benefits so it was made forbidden. Pigs are dirty animals so they are also forbidden.

pigs are actually quite clean animals.

preid1220 wrote:^ Just because you don't believe it means squat dude, the general argument I usually is that god created all the animals of the earth for man, and as such man should not limit what god has given him. Personally, I just don't see anything truly wrong with pork, It's just another animal such as cattle, fish, or birds.

Are you slow? We don't believe it so how does it apply to us? this is a question about what Muslims believe and our beliefs don't matter?

Talwar Khan wrote:

preid1220 wrote:^ Just because you don't believe it means squat dude, the general argument I usually is that god created all the animals of the earth for man, and as such man should not limit what god has given him. Personally, I just don't see anything truly wrong with pork, It's just another animal such as cattle, fish, or birds.

Are you slow? We don't believe it so how does it apply to us? this is a question about what Muslims believe and our beliefs don't matter?

I never said it applied to you, I was only voicing a catholic opinion on the discussion on edible pork.

BTW can you eat synthetic bacon that has no pork in it?

No pork is fine. Also we dont eat dead animals.

preid1220 wrote:

Talwar Khan wrote:

preid1220 wrote:^ Just because you don't believe it means squat dude, the general argument I usually is that god created all the animals of the earth for man, and as such man should not limit what god has given him. Personally, I just don't see anything truly wrong with pork, It's just another animal such as cattle, fish, or birds.

Are you slow? We don't believe it so how does it apply to us? this is a question about what Muslims believe and our beliefs don't matter?

I never said it applied to you, I was only voicing a catholic opinion on the discussion on edible pork.

BTW can you eat synthetic bacon that has no pork in it?

thats great but offtopic

and no i wouldn't

Phoenix wrote:

Just because you don't believe it means squat dude, the general argument I usually is that god created all the animals of the earth for man, and as such man should not limit what god has given him.

It's the only thing that matters.

Secondly, Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet of Allah, and they even believe in the virgin Birth of Jesus, and that he was a messenger of Allah.

That's why we don't believe that Jesus said what you claim.

Islam is a very simple religion. No complexities. Alcohol is said in the Qur'an to have benefits (believe it or not) but the negatives outweigh the benefits so it was made forbidden. Pigs are dirty animals so they are also forbidden.

Actually, it's proven that people who drink alcohol from time to time live longer

Also, no debating. This is the discussions section.

As I said, the Quran acknowledges that it has benefits but the negatives are greater