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    There is no God, no heaven and no hell.

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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:49 pm

    "...ust because he thinks he will never change..."

    He doesn't "think", He KNOWS they won't change.
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    Post by preid1220 Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:58 pm

    god gave us free will and in that sense does not know our every action because they are not predetermined. Woot! another flaw in Islam!
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:59 pm

    Ahmed, no he doesn't blind us!! Of course not! People are the ones that blind themselves!!
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    Post by Doc Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:12 pm

    Sultan Ahmed IV wrote:Everyone has an equal chance. Yet some people, Allah Knows, will never accept the Truth. So He has blinded them.

    Those people choose to go astray. And Allah guides whom he pleases.

    no brother, they blind themselves ... they have a disease in their hearts ...
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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:13 pm

    I was referring to this Gaz:

    As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

    Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).
    (2:6-7)
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:22 pm

    Sultan Ahmed IV wrote:I was referring to this Gaz:

    As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

    Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).
    (2:6-7)

    mhm I get what yeah mean but the "veil" on there eyes aren't put there by Allah maybe I just misunderstood you
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    Post by Fangy Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:32 am

    Petit Pois wrote:and what then after death??...
    after u die by a few hundred years your children would die, ur grandchildren would die, the ppl u helped would die all u lived for would die.. no?
    Yes, that's what happens. The idea of an afterlife is just to escape your fear of death.
    If you live a happy life, then death is nothing to be afraid of.
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:30 am

    Fang wrote:
    Petit Pois wrote:and what then after death??...
    after u die by a few hundred years your children would die, ur grandchildren would die, the ppl u helped would die all u lived for would die.. no?
    Yes, that's what happens. The idea of an afterlife is just to escape your fear of death.
    If you live a happy life, then death is nothing to be afraid of.
    i'm not afraid of death Suspect
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    Post by preid1220 Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:51 am

    Petit Pois wrote:
    Fang wrote:
    Petit Pois wrote:and what then after death??...
    after u die by a few hundred years your children would die, ur grandchildren would die, the ppl u helped would die all u lived for would die.. no?
    Yes, that's what happens. The idea of an afterlife is just to escape your fear of death.
    If you live a happy life, then death is nothing to be afraid of.
    i'm not afraid of death Suspect

    but would you fear it if you had no religion?
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:35 pm

    Death is a part of life.
    Why should it be feared if it is inevitable (with or without religon)?
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:58 pm

    because with religion there is more coming, without religion it is the end of you and you just stop after death.
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:07 pm

    Master Steve wrote:because with religion there is more coming, without religion it is the end of you and you just stop after death.
    Yeah, but with religon also comes punishment after death.
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:09 pm

    but your Muslim to avoid that, aren't you Smile

    that must offer some comfort when you think of your own death.
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:26 pm

    Master Steve wrote:but your Muslim to avoid that, aren't you Smile

    that must offer some comfort when you think of your own death.

    I don't and shouldn't fear death either way. The only thing I fear is God.........























































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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:29 pm

    the only reason you fear God is because your muslim ¬_¬

    i think you would have a totally different outlook if you weren't... apart from the spiders.

    I dont fear God.
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:31 pm

    Master Steve wrote:the only reason you fear God is because your muslim ¬_¬

    i think you would have a totally different outlook if you weren't... apart from the spiders.

    I dont fear God.

    Well then, you are oblivious to the powers of God.
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:32 pm

    and God is clearly unwilling to use those powers on me.
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:34 pm

    Master Steve wrote:and God is clearly unwilling to use those powers on me.

    No, your just oblivious. There is evidence all around you.
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:36 pm

    you mean like me being clind to islam and things like that? I seriously think that is just to make muslims feel better.

    ok, what evidence is there?
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:37 pm

    Master Steve wrote:you mean like me being clind to islam and things like that? I seriously think that is just to make muslims feel better.

    ok, what evidence is there?

    Easy. The Quran.
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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:40 pm

    no, thats not evidence of God using his powers against me.

    what about getting hit with lightning bolts?
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:42 pm

    Master Steve wrote:no, thats not evidence of God using his powers against me.

    what about getting hit with lightning bolts?


    What are ya talkin about??? I'm not telling you thats evidence of him using his powers against you.

    If you get hit with a lightening bolt thats called "naseeb" , destiny
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    Post by The Banker Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:44 pm

    this proves da Quran is accurate to da letter..

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    Post by Steve Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:46 pm

    ok well let me tell you, my life is no different now that i dont believe in God, if anything i am a happier person.

    anyway do you have any questions about me not believing? I think my thread got hi-jacked somewhere along the way Razz
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:51 pm

    Master Steve wrote:ok well let me tell you, my life is no different now that i dont believe in God, if anything i am a happier person.

    anyway do you have any questions about me not believing? I think my thread got hi-jacked somewhere along the way Razz

    Why are we here on Earth, I mean whats the point?? In your POV

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