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Post by Ahmed Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:23 am

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Post by preid1220 Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:29 am

I can not sign this because I truly do not feel that pharmacists are health care providers. While a crucial part of the healthcare system, the lack of patent evaluation or care makes me feel that they no not fit the role of provider.
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Post by Doc Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:11 pm

Pharmacists dispense drugs

That fact alone makes them providers

Even if you ignore the fact that we administer immunizations, counsel patients on how to use drugs, and make recommendations not only to patients but to physicians.
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Post by Ahmed Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:05 pm

preid1220 wrote:I can not sign this because I truly do not feel that pharmacists are health care providers. While a crucial part of the healthcare system, the lack of patent evaluation or care makes me feel that they no not fit the role of provider.

Yesterday, I had a 60 post debate with someone about this and it seems I won because he can no longer response. But anyways,

Pharmacy is moving away from a drug centered profession to a patient focused profession. In other words, Pharmacy is changing to become a more clinical profession. This is a fact and is widely known (at least by Pharmacists, Pharmacy Colleges and the Board of Pharmacy). Furthermore, the current role of dispensers is mainly the retail branch. Other branches do other things. Pharmacists in hospitals for example are allowed to prescribe after receiving the doctors diagnosis.

Please sign it.
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Post by Generaldesor Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:20 pm

Lots of pharmacists here in my country have noo idea about health whatsoever slanty
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Post by Ahmed Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:31 pm

Well this is about US Pharmacists. They study for 4 years + 2 to 4 years of undergrad to get a doctoral degree.
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Post by Ace Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:30 am

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preid1220 wrote:I can not sign this because I truly do not feel that pharmacists are health care providers. While a crucial part of the healthcare system, the lack of patent evaluation or care makes me feel that they no not fit the role of provider.

Yesterday, I had a 60 post debate with someone about this and it seems I won because he can no longer response.

Maybe he just gave up on you instead of his view like I have... What's logical to me isn't to you and vice versa most of the time. It doesn't mean either is right or wrong, there's just nothing left to say. And I don't mean any of that in a mean way.

So I did some research and I think the pros outweigh the cons. I cropped some stuff from an article written by a real pharmacist with a Doctorate (so it's naturally biased) but it makes complete sense nonetheless.

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Full article: http://daybehindthepharmacycounter.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-cant-pharmacists-prescribe.html

It would make medicine cheaper. 'nuff said. I signed it.
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Post by Ahmed Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:28 am

Will we got the total amount needed (and more). So let's see what happens Very Happy
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Post by Ace Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:56 pm

Most likely nothing. This has to be pushed through Congress, doesn't it? They are completely incapable of settling the tiniest damn thing.
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Post by Ahmed Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:45 pm

You know what's awesome? This petition was started by a 6th year in my college.
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Post by Ace Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:00 pm

Hotshot wrote:You know what's awesome? This petition was started by a 6th year in my college.

lol, cool
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Post by preid1220 Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:47 pm

You know, The pharmacist seam a bit pretentious in perusing this. Do you even know how to give an injection or start an IV?
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Post by jj16802 Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:07 am

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Post by Ahmed Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:33 am

preid1220 wrote:You know, The pharmacist seam a bit pretentious in perusing this. Do you even know how to give an injection or start an IV?

Yes, Pharmacists are trained to administer injections such as Pneumonia or Flu shots.

Pharmacists also prepare IVs at hospitals.



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Post by Dark Flame99966 Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:44 am

The largest problem I could see is if pharmacists don't know allergies and certain medications whcih are created differently for the same thing could adversely affect the patient
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Post by Ahmed Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:02 am

I dont understand what you're saying flame.

Pharmacists do know drug interactions.
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Post by jj16802 Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:06 am

How many years does a pharmacist need for education compared to a health care provider?
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Post by Doc Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:45 am

pharmacists are health care providers so wtf are you talking about?

pharmacists are actually doctors of pharmacy
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Post by Ahmed Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:19 am

@jj: 2-4 years of undergrad, 4 years of pharm school, 2-3 years residency (optional)
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