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Post by SeraphicDemon Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:15 pm

What are your thoughts on suicide.
Discuss.
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:19 pm

It's cowardly.
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Post by SeraphicDemon Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:20 pm

I disagree. Why is it cowardly?
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:22 pm

To end life's challenges you take away your life. Why not face the challenges?
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Post by SeraphicDemon Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:24 pm

Would you say that if put in the situation most people who commit/contemplate/attempt suicide are in?
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:26 pm

Give me some examples.
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Post by SeraphicDemon Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:32 pm

Hm, hard to think of anything of the top of my head. Your parants and family are murdered and your home destroyed, when you are proceeded to be adopted by a
step family that hits you?
I dunno.
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:34 pm

Well the government usually gives you to parents that treat you decently. And most times they have checks to make sure you're being treated well.

I would live life and carry my parents' names and honor them.
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Post by SeraphicDemon Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:38 pm

Medical issues can also be a problem, depression is a prime example.
Somtimes i think people just try to find a way out and suicide is the only way.
For some people its not easy to brush things off and get back on their feet.
Diseases that cause hallucinations and paranoia can also add to this.
I dont know whats after life, but somtimes it seems like a better option than the hell hole than life somtimes is for some people.
Edit: just relized i was using quick reply and thats why these look weird.
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:41 pm

Depression is more a psychological issue than a real pathological issue.

What's depressing you? Figure that out, then face it.

I see where you're coming from, but I just can't find an excuse for suicide.
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Post by SeraphicDemon Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:43 pm

Glad i saw the other side of the fence on this, but lets wait for another persons 2 cents Smile
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Post by Craig Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:10 pm

It's what should be the excuse of population control.
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Post by jj16802 Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:17 pm

Death before dishonor - AKA defending your nation/community/group's information from falling into the enemy's hands. That's the only acceptable excuse I could think of.
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:27 pm

jj16802 wrote:Death before dishonor - AKA defending your nation/community/group's information from falling into the enemy's hands. That's the only acceptable excuse I could think of.

Fighting till death =/= suicide.
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Post by jj16802 Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:20 pm

Hotshot wrote:
jj16802 wrote:Death before dishonor - AKA defending your nation/community/group's information from falling into the enemy's hands. That's the only acceptable excuse I could think of.

Fighting till death =/= suicide.
That's not what I was talking about. Its more like a Samurai committing suicide before the opposing force can capture him.
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Post by Ahmed Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:21 pm

Ohhhhh I see. I believe that's also dishonorable.
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Post by jj16802 Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:25 pm

Hotshot wrote:Ohhhhh I see. I believe that's also dishonorable.
Not to some cultures...
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Post by Ace Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:53 am

Stand up and fight whatever gets in your way... just like that one video that Hotshot posted said, success is and continues to be defined as getting up one more time than you've been knocked down. Life is tough, but going through with it only makes you tougher. Committing suicide is being a pansy.

There is one exception though in my opinion... if you're on life support and condemned in a hospital with the chance of never leaving said hospital, then you might as well take your life since you're not really living at all, and because life support is extremely expensive for your family or whoever is paying for it.

SeraphicDemon wrote:Hm, hard to think of anything of the top of my head. Your parants and family are murdered and your home destroyed, when you are proceeded to be adopted by a
step family that hits you?
I dunno.

I'd hit them back.
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