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cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:31 pm
post your lists
cowardly
1. the french - a nation of eunuch cowards
2. the spanish - terrorist genocidal murderers
3. the Chinese - not really cowardly but when you get owned like they did in a certain event in history ... you make this list lol
4. "americans" - cowardly bullies
5. Jews - a history of being enslaved, owned and punished
brave, warlike
1. Afghans (including other parts of Central-South Asia ) - No explanation needed for this one
2. C Asian Steppe nomads - The fabled warrior people from the steppe ... Turks in particular ....
3. Arabs/ Middle Easterners (excluding Armenians, Georgians etc) - Legendary conquerors ... but ranking them was hard ... so after taking everything into consideration I think I made the right choice ...
4. Japanese - the pioneers and proprietors of martial arts as we know them today and a resilient, warlike people
5. Vietnamese - Historically they've survived and defeated super powers
cowardly
1. the french - a nation of eunuch cowards
2. the spanish - terrorist genocidal murderers
3. the Chinese - not really cowardly but when you get owned like they did in a certain event in history ... you make this list lol
4. "americans" - cowardly bullies
5. Jews - a history of being enslaved, owned and punished
brave, warlike
1. Afghans (including other parts of Central-South Asia ) - No explanation needed for this one
2. C Asian Steppe nomads - The fabled warrior people from the steppe ... Turks in particular ....
3. Arabs/ Middle Easterners (excluding Armenians, Georgians etc) - Legendary conquerors ... but ranking them was hard ... so after taking everything into consideration I think I made the right choice ...
4. Japanese - the pioneers and proprietors of martial arts as we know them today and a resilient, warlike people
5. Vietnamese - Historically they've survived and defeated super powers
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ace Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:42 pm
5. Jews - a history of being enslaved, owned and punished
That doesn't make them cowardly.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:58 pm
dude read the history of the jews according to themselves ... they're cowards
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:35 pm
anyway russians, people from the caucuses, N Africans were also considerations for warrior peoples
the british also considerations for cowards
italians somewhere in the middle and the greeks as well, no matter how much i don't like either of them ... especially the greeks
the british also considerations for cowards
italians somewhere in the middle and the greeks as well, no matter how much i don't like either of them ... especially the greeks
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ahmed Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:16 pm
@Ace: Todsy they kill unarmed people, such as women and children, with advanced weaponry. That's cowardly.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Dark Flame99966 Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:35 pm
ITT: Bias, bias, and bias all around
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:07 am
Dark Flame99966 wrote:ITT: Bias, bias, and bias all around
if ur list is any different ur a homo
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by preid1220 Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:24 am
sayf a nation is not composed of warriors or cowards, just like how the world is not simply white and black. Would the french underground who still keep fighting even when their nation had been crushed by the Germans not be more heroic than the average afghan who simply lives their day to day life?
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ace Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:56 am
5. Vietnamese - Historically they've survived and defeated super powers
Preid's right. Although there's something else I'd like to note... Vietnam used pretty much nothing but guerrilla warfare in the 50's/60's/70's... they never actually participated in a straight-up battle. They even taught their children to take cheapshots at the Americans by doing things like donating them soda full of tiny glass shards... small enough that you can't see them but just big enough so they can cut your throat from the inside and make you bleed out. By your terms, Sayf, that's cowardly.
Historically, America and Britain have survived and defeated superpowers. If that's all that's needed to get on the so-called brave list, then they are misplaced.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ahmed Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:24 pm
Which superpowerS did the US and UK defeat? The USSR? The USSR got defeated by it's own economy, not either of them.
As for Germany, I would say that America took the cheap shots that you speak of because it joined the war after Germany was exhausted.
As for the Vietnamese they were smart. America had advanced weaponry. So to balance they needed the element of surprise.
As for Germany, I would say that America took the cheap shots that you speak of because it joined the war after Germany was exhausted.
As for the Vietnamese they were smart. America had advanced weaponry. So to balance they needed the element of surprise.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ace Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:42 pm
US beat Britain in its revolution. Britain at the time was considered a world power.
America didn't cheap shot anybody in WWI. Nobody in the war was making any progress, and America stepped in to tip the balance. Also, Germany refused to stop sinking our defenseless civilian ships before we joined the war. If they had stopped doing that, there is a chance America would've joined Germany's side. But instead they decided to cheap shot US by killing harmless civilians.
Advanced weaponry justifies guerrilla tactics, but it doesn't justify cheap shots and cowardice.
America didn't cheap shot anybody in WWI. Nobody in the war was making any progress, and America stepped in to tip the balance. Also, Germany refused to stop sinking our defenseless civilian ships before we joined the war. If they had stopped doing that, there is a chance America would've joined Germany's side. But instead they decided to cheap shot US by killing harmless civilians.
Advanced weaponry justifies guerrilla tactics, but it doesn't justify cheap shots and cowardice.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:08 pm
america's record today is savagely attacking poor 3rd world countries that pose no threat to it
america consistently lying about their actions and trying to defame their opponents makes them the biggest cowards in the recent era
the vietnamese not only resisted the terrorist murderous american invasion but they've fought off the chinese and even the mongols were unable to conquer it ... hence they make this list
don't even get me started on britain ... those eunuchs would've had their intestines wrapped around their neck if they decided to fight straight up and didn't entice other nations to fight against each other ...
im not sure where to put germany btw ... they did nearly solo all of europe including britain and france ... but they are like savages than anything if you consider their whole history, even back to the BC era against the romans ...
also america has never beaten a super power nor has britain ... wtf are u smoking? Afghanistan is the only nation on earth to defeat 2 super powers ... your posts are nothing but cheapshots against the true warrior people who fear nothing and have an unbreakable will
america consistently lying about their actions and trying to defame their opponents makes them the biggest cowards in the recent era
the vietnamese not only resisted the terrorist murderous american invasion but they've fought off the chinese and even the mongols were unable to conquer it ... hence they make this list
don't even get me started on britain ... those eunuchs would've had their intestines wrapped around their neck if they decided to fight straight up and didn't entice other nations to fight against each other ...
im not sure where to put germany btw ... they did nearly solo all of europe including britain and france ... but they are like savages than anything if you consider their whole history, even back to the BC era against the romans ...
also america has never beaten a super power nor has britain ... wtf are u smoking? Afghanistan is the only nation on earth to defeat 2 super powers ... your posts are nothing but cheapshots against the true warrior people who fear nothing and have an unbreakable will
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by preid1220 Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:57 pm
but in truth Afghan lost because America was never their to fight for land or money, It was a political war made to distract attention from more important issues that exist on a global level. Afghan lost the moment they were picked out of the hat. As for the USSR they died because of western powers preventing economic growth, hence the name of the era, cold war. Vietnam is also possibly the most cowardly of nations by your standard as well, seeing as they only 'survived' by using sticks filled with dung as traps and villages of innocent people as meat shields.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:15 pm
LOL Afghanistan lost when gaymerican soldiers come home with suicidal thoughts after being r@ped so badly?
Afghans are lions in clothing
You can't win there ... the British learned that, the Soviets learned that and now america realizes that ... the Taliban were recently taken of their "terrorist" lists and they want to suddenly negotiate with them too ...
America never beat the USSR in a straight up war ... the USSR is more courageous than America too ... what they did to the Germans was the turning point of the war ...
Don't feed me american propaganda against the Viets ... the same nonsense is propagated against the Palestinians and Iraqis ... go watch your WW2 films because thats the last war america ever won
Afghans are lions in clothing
You can't win there ... the British learned that, the Soviets learned that and now america realizes that ... the Taliban were recently taken of their "terrorist" lists and they want to suddenly negotiate with them too ...
America never beat the USSR in a straight up war ... the USSR is more courageous than America too ... what they did to the Germans was the turning point of the war ...
Don't feed me american propaganda against the Viets ... the same nonsense is propagated against the Palestinians and Iraqis ... go watch your WW2 films because thats the last war america ever won
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ameer 2 Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:16 pm
5. Jews - a history of being enslaved, owned and punished
Dude that's pretty harsh, they kind of had no means to resist as they were in bondage am I right? I mean when they had the chance they revolted like 3 times against the Romans by the end of the 1st Century AD, with their ultimate defeat resulting after the Bar Kokhba revolt.
Hmm what about the mongols? They did create one of the largest empires on earth via conquests and wreckless killing.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:26 pm
Ameer 2 wrote:5. Jews - a history of being enslaved, owned and punished
Dude that's pretty harsh, they kind of had no means to resist as they were in bondage am I right? I mean when they had the chance they revolted like 3 times against the Romans by the end of the 1st Century AD, with their ultimate defeat resulting after the Bar Kokhba revolt.
Hmm what about the mongols? They did create one of the largest empires on earth via conquests and wreckless killing.
Mongols are #2 with the rest of the Steppe people
Even though they were brutal they were a true warrior people ... and only the Turks, another people originally from the C Asian Steppe, truly defeated them in battle ... Russia got owned ... China got owned (they REALLY got owned lol) ... Persia put up a good fight but they couldn't stop them ... they made the largest land empire ever to date ... I suspect it was actually the largest empire in history
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ace Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:21 pm
what they did to the Germans was the turning point of the war ...
No, what the Russian winter did to the Germans was the turning point of the war. Nature beat Germany more than the Russians themselves did. Russia only beat the Germans back because of the weather and massive numbers of infantry with outdated weapons. They were like ants... you step on the anthill (aka Stalingrad) and a kajillion angry Russians pop out of everywhere... and no matter how many you squash, there's always a kajillion more...
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ahmed Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:02 pm
No, the Turks didn't defeat the Mongols. It was the Egyptians.
Derp.
Derp.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:42 pm
Ace wrote:what they did to the Germans was the turning point of the war ...
No, what the Russian winter did to the Germans was the turning point of the war. Nature beat Germany more than the Russians themselves did. Russia only beat the Germans back because of the weather and massive numbers of infantry with outdated weapons. They were like ants... you step on the anthill (aka Stalingrad) and a kajillion angry Russians pop out of everywhere... and no matter how many you squash, there's always a kajillion more...
and the fact that the russian civilians even sacrificed themselves in defending their country from the massive german onslaught means nothing? they were also in that cold ... their resilience and steadfastness allowed them to defeat the germans ... hitler never expected that ...
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:43 pm
A wrote:No, the Turks didn't defeat the Mongols. It was the Egyptians.
Derp.
yeah even though the Mamluks were Turks
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ahmed Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:19 am
Doesn't matter. They lived long enough in Egypt to be considered Egyptians. But yeah, their ORIGINS were a mix of Turkish and Arabic.
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Doc Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:48 am
Middle Easterners includes north Africans
those are some badass mofos ... especially the Berbers
those are some badass mofos ... especially the Berbers
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ahmed Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:30 am
That's not true. Egypt is the only African country included in the ME.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East#Territories_and_regions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East#Territories_and_regions
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Re: cowardly and brave, warrior people
by Ace Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:40 pm
Dark Flame99966 wrote:ITT: Bias, bias, and bias all around
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