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Post by classical_algebra Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:35 pm

Hello all!
So recently in the US there ave been protests against economic inequality and other similar (mainly socialist) causes.

If these protests get to be violent or pose a security threat, the U.S. or local cities might declare martial law. They might also start analyzing civilian communications (if they haven't been already).

So what do you guys think would be the best algorithm to use for email/IM/other forms of communication?

Fb and Google use RC4_128, SHA1_128 and sometimes RSA_128 for standard communications; all of which have been known to be attacked successfully with sufficient computing power (a gaming computer or two)
of course a subpoena changes everything

should we just stop using Fb and use a forum (better yet, a forum in a secure place like the tor network)



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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:29 pm

If that happens...then...Sayf...is...not going to be happy xD

Yes, everyone should use this forum. Screw facebook.

I heard Twitter is safe?
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Post by Dark Flame99966 Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:42 pm

You aren't safe. The best thing you could do is encrypt all your information, but as long as you use a public domain, or anything run by those influenced by the government, they can tell everything that you're doing. Your best bet is to anonymize yourself as much as possibly using VPN's, TOR, offshore ISPs, etc.
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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:30 pm

Yeah guys we're so much safer when we just use unindexed forums.

See, the problem with the tor network and "deepweb" is that the government has just as much power in that as it has on this forum or newt gingrich. It can do what it wants.
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:42 pm

Alta Vana wrote:Yeah guys we're so much safer when we just use unindexed forums.

Explain.
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Post by classical_algebra Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:54 pm

If a forum isn't indexed, how would anyone find data or posts in it? That would be much more secure cause it makes it harder t olook through posts
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:57 pm

Can't we just use proxies?
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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:10 pm

classical_algebra wrote:If a forum isn't indexed, how would anyone find data or posts in it? That would be much more secure cause it makes it harder t olook through posts
Tor is just a program that lets you look through unindexed webpages.
Anybody can look at them.

ITT: Ahmed ne comprend rien.
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:14 pm

Intense Testicular Tension?
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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:17 pm

In this thread, Ahmed understands nothing.
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Post by Dark Flame99966 Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:23 pm

See, the problem with the tor network and "deepweb" is that the government has just as much power in that as it has on this forum or newt gingrich. It can do what it wants
No. You don't understand what Tor does. Tor is a program that connects all the computers on it. Some people are beginner nodes, some are connector nodes, others are linking nodes. You start at the beginner, then you go through linking nodes, then connecting nodes. This use allows you to connect anywhere through the IP address of the connector node. It anonymity your connection and uses other linking nodes to make it impossible, or at least very difficult to find. So far, even the creators of Tor could not find you.

AKA, you're wrong.
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:24 pm

I do understand. I just don't understand why you can't use proxies if you are merely trying to be anon.
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Post by Dark Flame99966 Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:27 pm

Because proxies are operated by people and whoever operates them can see whatever YOU are doing and steal all of your information. Also, if they are in the US, they can be subpoenaed and it won't matter.
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:29 pm

But doesn't Mozzila Firefox have a proxy app?
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Post by Dark Flame99966 Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:36 pm

The proxy add-on isn't a proxy server. It simply allows configuration of proxies
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:43 pm

So are we in danger?
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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:54 pm

Dark Flame99966 wrote:
See, the problem with the tor network and "deepweb" is that the government has just as much power in that as it has on this forum or newt gingrich. It can do what it wants
No. You don't understand what Tor does. Tor is a program that connects all the computers on it. Some people are beginner nodes, some are connector nodes, others are linking nodes. You start at the beginner, then you go through linking nodes, then connecting nodes. This use allows you to connect anywhere through the IP address of the connector node. It anonymity your connection and uses other linking nodes to make it impossible, or at least very difficult to find. So far, even the creators of Tor could not find you.

AKA, you're wrong.
In other words, it replaces your IP with about 3 others.
When you log on to the tor network, your ip is added to the list and other people will end up covering their ip with yours.
If tor can't be traced, explain why people still use proxies while on sites like HiddenWiki and AnonIB
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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:56 pm

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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:57 pm

A wrote:So are we in danger?
No, no one is in danger now.
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:00 pm

Will we soon? How soon? And if so, does this mean the internet will die unless Anon saves us?
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Post by Fangy Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:02 pm

Naw it's not gonna happen.
If the government can't figure out why they should be able to shut down ThePirateBay then there's no way they'll stop us from communicating on the internet.
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Post by Ahmed Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:57 pm

They won't but say bye bye to your freedom of speech. People like Sayf and preid wont be able to use it.
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Post by Fangy Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:25 pm

Won't be able to use what?
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Post by Ahmed Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:35 pm

The internet
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Post by Dark Flame99966 Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:59 pm

Fang: How Tor works: https://www.torproject.org/images/htw2.png

Yes, you can break anonymity though a specific exploit, but as I said, Tor has the best anonymity with VPN's at the moment.
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