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    Post by Doc Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:58 pm

    Are all traced back to the Middle East ...

    First recorded battles

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uruk

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_%2815th_century_BC%29

    First "empire" is arguably the Akkadian empire established by Sargon ... and it was in modern day Iraq ...

    Point of the post? Don't go to Iraq lol
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    Post by L Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:02 pm

    Egyptian empire was established before Akkadian.
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    Post by Doc Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:58 pm

    Depends on how you define "empire" ... but its commonly accepted it was the first real empire .... Sargon conquered the most populated city in the world ... what the heck were Egyptians doing then? Pepi II was the name of the king during Sargons rule ... and from the looks of it he didn't conquer or do crap ...

    BTW the other candidates of "first empire" are all Iraqi so lol Egypt loses Very Happy Rolling Eyes
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    Post by L Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:05 pm

    Look at the map on the right...

    Map of ancient Egypt, showing major cities and sites of the Dynastic period (c. 3150 BC to 30 BC)

    That's a huge land mass.
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    Post by L Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:08 pm

    And this is at max terriroty:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Egypt_NK_edit.svg

    I just realized this Hilarious ...for some reason Egyptians always wanted to conquer Syria...this was seen in ancient times...medieval (Mamluke empire) and Modern Egypt (Egypt and Syria united in the 1950s). lol
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    Post by Doc Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:12 pm

    sargon would've owned them Hilarious

    dude egypt has been conquered a few times ... nearly every place has ...
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    Post by L Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:48 pm

    And? Did I deny that? lol

    Egypt got conquered by Rome, Byzantines, Arabs and Turks. I know all that.
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    Post by Doc Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:50 pm

    yeah but Egypt was still awesome after then too lol

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    Post by L Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:06 pm

    Haha...ya maybe in the old days. The "modern" era leaders destroyed it.

    Bro. reflect on this...someone asked the Egypt section at Y!A if they want to leave Egypt...ALL of them said they want to leave. Not kidding.
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    Post by Ameer 2 Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:03 pm

    Not to brag or anything but Iraq still excelled in its military capabilities and was an economic hub of the middle east; the housing was pretty advanced as well (they had houses with two floors, balconies etc.) and they had a primitive form of aqueducts. Forget vastness of borders and how long they dated back, the first civilization that had a thriving urban life was the one the Akkadian empire brought. Their armour, weaponry, and art was way ahead of its time and some of the former can even be compared with the Roman weaponry and armour that existed only thousands of years later.
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    Post by L Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:34 pm

    Yes, there were 4 ancient civilizations. Egypt, Mesoptamia, India and China.

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