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    Post by L Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:23 am

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    Post by preid1220 Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:10 pm

    No. end of story. The Iraq war was a war over resources, the fact that the popular religion of the region of the world which happened to sit over vast amounts of oil is different from the attackers does not make it a holy war. It's also worth noting that insisting this is a holy war because or a large christian population in America is disrespectful to my self, Every follower of Jesus Christ, and the US military which is composed of a range of different beliefs and cultures.
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    Post by L Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:59 pm

    Don't be hard headed. Watch the video. All the speakers are American Christians.
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    Post by Ace Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:07 pm

    ^ Big deal.

    We were fighting over resources, because we were and still are in dire need of more oil.
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    Post by preid1220 Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:00 pm

    It's a sub over a German reporter from a guy called muslimsince2003, this is nothing other than insulting and I find the very fact that you acknowledge such propaganda increasingly insulting! Would you like me to go fish up some of the videos that call all Muslims Evil?
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    Post by Fangy Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:10 pm

    Seriously. I could fish up a ton of crap that says offensive things atheists, christians, buddhists, you name it. It's only propaganda.
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    Post by Ace Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:34 pm

    Atheism is the most selfless group IMO... It's a non-prophet organization. DURHURHUR
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    Post by Ameer 2 Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:53 pm

    There were some christian extremists in the US Army but we shouldn't generalise and call it a christian crusade; that's a very narrow-minded outlook on the state of affairs in the middle east.

    Seriously we're expecting sympathy from the open-minded youth and yet some of us endorse the same mentality the bigoted anti-muslim idiots are displaying all over the Internet. Not in the sense that all members of a faith are of a generic mindset, but that the actions of a couple of publicised extremists reflects on the teachings of their faith.
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    Post by L Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:58 pm

    Ace wrote:^ Big deal.

    We were fighting over resources, because we were and still are in dire need of more oil.
    Watch the vid.

    preid1220 wrote:It's a sub over a German reporter from a guy called muslimsince2003, this is nothing other than insulting and I find the very fact that you acknowledge such propaganda increasingly insulting! Would you like me to go fish up some of the videos that call all Muslims Evil?
    Doesn't matter. It's legit. You could hear the English in the background. Uploader doesn't matter. The uploader doesn't own the people who were speaking. No. I don't want a Christian saying anything about Islam. In this vid the Christians spoke for themselves.

    Ameer 2 wrote:There were some christian extremists in the US Army but we shouldn't generalise and call it a christian crusade; that's a very narrow-minded outlook on the state of affairs in the middle east.

    Seriously we're expecting sympathy from the open-minded youth and yet some of us endorse the same mentality the bigoted anti-muslim idiots are displaying all over the Internet. Not in the sense that all members of a faith are of a generic mindset, but that the actions of a couple of publicised extremists reflects on the teachings of their faith.

    Those people weren't in the US army. They came and were supported by the US army. They are are missionaries.
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    Post by Fangy Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:01 pm

    The US armed forces is just kids who come from poor families and can't make a living and won't have a future without military service.
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    Post by L Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:04 pm

    Ace was planning to join...
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    Post by Fangy Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:08 pm

    Well, the majority Razz Not that I know what Ace's family is like though.
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    Post by preid1220 Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:13 pm

    https://youtu.be/QkinlJzmhis

    ^Ill use this to counter your argument, seeing as it's Muslims expressing there hatred of free speech and love to kill people. It's legit because Muslims say it right?
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    Post by L Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:22 pm

    1-Freedom of Speech when ti comes to our Prophet is a no. You and everyone else respect him or don't talk about him. This isn't freedom of speech. This is starting war. I have no sympathy.

    2-Very poor comparison. I showed you a video of what Christians are doing to Muslims. You show me an inner Muslim issue.

    P.S.: Muslims could take food from Christians and Jews.
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:05 am

    The US armed forces is just kids who come from poor families and can't make a living and won't have a future without military service.
    That's patently false and a generalization.
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    Post by Ameer 2 Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:21 am

    P.S.: Muslims could take food from Christians and Jews.


    Meaning we can partake in their dinners and consider their food ritually pure as opposed to idolaters...just to make it clear what Ahmed's trying to say Razz
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    Post by L Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:23 am

    Haha yes, very good Razz
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    Post by Doc Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:44 am

    im honestly sick of this
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    Post by Ace Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:10 pm

    Phoenix wrote:I don't want a Christian saying anything about Islam.

    You and Sayf constantly say things about Christianity. Don't be such a hypocrite, dude.

    [quote"Fang"]The US armed forces is just kids who come from poor families and can't make a living and won't have a future without military service.[/quote]

    I'm not poor, and although I don't know my family's income, because whenever I've asked my parents have said it's none of my business, I do know that it's over $100,000. I want to join the army because I want the experience of warfare.
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    Post by L Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:20 pm

    I'm talking about people in Vids
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    Post by Fangy Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:25 pm

    You can't judge the whole population by radicals. I'd be doing the same thing if I called you a terrorist for being muslim. I don't do that, so you shouldn't generalize either.
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    Post by L Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:40 pm

    I never talked about the population. I talked about the war.
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    Post by Doc Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:32 pm

    There were bible verses being printed on the weapons used by the "soldiers" in Iraq


    I'll leave it as that ...
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    Post by Fangy Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:36 pm

    So? they were christians, and wanted something to believe in when they fought. It's really no different than saying a prayer.
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    Post by L Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:49 pm

    That means it is indeed a religious war.

    !@Fang: Do that at church.

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