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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:58 am

    lets make a list shall we?


    first up is the knights SPAM ... gtfo ca, knights were the elites of europe no way shud dismounted feudal knights cost 570 when jhi is almost 1k ... especially when they lose to them 1vs1

    europe couldnt afford to produce the zillion types of knights in that game ...
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    Post by Ahmed Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:58 am

    Just for M2TW or all TW games?
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:03 am

    m2tw

    next up is the byz horse archers having higher stats than Muslim mounted archers .... historically untrue ... byz never used them ... they would only have mercenary turkish ones ... infact even hungary and russia have better ones than egypt or the turks ... complete nonsense ...
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    Post by Ahmed Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:05 am

    Every faction has a weakness though.
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:09 am

    euro factions are far too overpowered ... its unrealistic and unfair that we get the weakest units and face the mongols, timurids, and crusading catholics


    and to top that off, they are too overpriced !!

    jhi shuld rape any type of dismounted euro knights ... they were the terror of europe and the first pro military unit ... knights were independent, undisciplined, glory fighters ...


    and turkey wants to be part of the racist eu??

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    Post by Ahmed Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:17 am

    I sort of disagree there. It is actually better that Egypt and Turks get to face the hordes first. They could weaken them. European faction will eventually face them when their power is greater.
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:25 am

    but the mamluks should EASILY be the best overall cavalry in the game on historical basis alone ... they beat the unbeatable mongol horde and then right after that they raped the crusaders ... while russia was completely destroyed by them yet they have better heavy cav and missile cav?? wtf??
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:29 am

    forget that ... maluks shud be best heavy cav with sipahis as best horse archer unit ... idc about infantry tho ...


    Muslim factions were superior to euros at that time ... just a fact
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    Post by Ahmed Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:35 am

    But Mamluks are horse archers
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:37 am

    no bro they were all purpose cavalry

    royal mamluks shuld be the best ..
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    Post by Ahmed Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:39 am

    Aren't royal Mamelukes just in the Crusaders game?

    Btw speaking of that, did you ever beat the crusader game on VH/VH?
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:46 am

    never tried ...

    ca needs to fix the Muslim factions ... our only infantry is the hassasshim Rolling Eyes

    and it takes too long to get dismounted xtian guard
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    Post by preid1220 Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:19 am

    Medieval total war was invented with the notion that players should play as a European faction, Because we all know the AI cheats.
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    Post by Doc Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:54 am

    european factions are boring .... slow armies lacking mobility ... ruled by the pope ...

    and thats off topic ... this is about fairness ... janissaries were the elite, professional soldiers of the time ... they outclassed knights ... mamluks were also the best all around cavalry and the turks had the best horse archers aside from the mongols ... atleast they got the gunpowder superiory of the turks Rolling Eyes

    I don't care about the euros having better infantry until the Janissary era, but the fact is that they were the top soldiers of the time ... the history of Europe was the history of the Ottoman empire from the 1300s until the 1700s ...

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