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    Post by Doc Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:02 pm

    cool stories bros

    the never ending debate here is back ... and never ending
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:10 am

    Le Caire wrote:The west is the most terroristic, imperialistic, exploitful bunch of racists the world has seen.

    that's quite racist of you!
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:12 am

    Stating facts is racist?
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:12 am

    saying
    Le Caire wrote:The west is the most terroristic, imperialistic, exploitful bunch of racists the world has seen.
    is raciest.
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    Post by Doc Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:27 am

    brb first place
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    Post by Fangy Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:28 am

    Guys, Imma have to remind you to stay on topic and avoid flaming. I know you're not flaming now, but I see quite an inferno coming on the horizon.
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    Post by Doc Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:45 am

    ahmed and preid war resumes
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:00 am

    I shall not argue with Preid anymore.
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:43 pm

    "At least the west doesn't treat women as lower people, like Islam does.

    I think we've been over this before... America doesn't use terrorism... do we really need to debate about that again?"
    Actually, Islam treats its women as more than the West does.

    And lol, bro, EVERY military expedition IS an act of terrorism.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:02 pm

    I never saw that post.

    And lol, Western woman... prostitution, porn magazines, getting called b!tches...yup, some royal treatment there.
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:42 pm

    "And lol, bro, EVERY military expedition IS an act of terrorism."
    no, just no.

    "And lol, Western woman... prostitution, porn magazines, getting called b!tches...yup, some royal treatment there."
    the 'West' is the land of opportunity, ANYONE can rise to power here, but to get their you need to push the people above you out of the way. Quite frankly you make your position in the "western powers". Look at Hilary and Barack!
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:46 pm

    So can women in Muslim world.
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:47 pm

    Le Caire wrote:So can women in Muslim world.

    who was the last Muslim woman who was in the running for presidency in an Islamic state?
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    Post by Ace Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:09 pm

    Men have more rights than women do in Islam... same problem with Mormonism...
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    Post by Ameer 2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:54 pm

    preid1220 wrote:
    Le Caire wrote:So can women in Muslim world.

    who was the last Muslim woman who was in the running for presidency in an Islamic state?


    Woman seeks iranian presidency
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:03 pm

    Ameer 2 wrote:
    preid1220 wrote:
    Le Caire wrote:So can women in Muslim world.

    who was the last Muslim woman who was in the running for presidency in an Islamic state?


    Woman seeks iranian presidency

    that's the one thanks Ameer, I wanted to read up about her a bit but couldn't remember who she was.
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:59 pm

    Men have more rights than women do in Islam... same problem with Mormonism...
    Get some proof before making retarded claims.

    And Preid, another woman is seeking presidency in Egypt. She's Muslim.
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    Post by Ace Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:06 pm

    Dude, I've read about Muslim stuff. It's not a retarded claim.

    Ahmed said it himself... men can marry woman who aren't Muslim, but women must marry Muslim men... that's jacked up. There's more than just that, and it's all approved of in the Quran in direct quotes.
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:44 pm

    Dark Flame99966 wrote:
    Men have more rights than women do in Islam... same problem with Mormonism...
    Get some proof before making retarded claims.

    And Preid, another woman is seeking presidency in Egypt. She's Muslim.

    link to that as well?
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    Post by Dark Flame99966 Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:38 pm

    Dude, I've read about Muslim stuff. It's not a retarded claim.

    Ahmed said it himself... men can marry woman who aren't Muslim, but women must marry Muslim men... that's jacked up. There's more than just that, and it's all approved of in the Quran in direct quotes.
    It kind of is. And just so you know, the tafseer that allows only Muslim men to marry outside of their religion is pretty small and at the same time, there is tafseer saying no Muslim is allowed to marry a non-Muslim in the West. So either way, you're wrong.

    Preid: http://www.npr.org/2011/04/19/135523441/women-press-for-a-voice-in-the-new-egypt
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    Post by Ameer 2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:02 pm

    Ace wrote:Dude, I've read about Muslim stuff. It's not a retarded claim.

    Ahmed said it himself... men can marry woman who aren't Muslim, but women must marry Muslim men... that's jacked up. There's more than just that, and it's all approved of in the Quran in direct quotes.



    Actually there's no verse in the Quran that says a woman can't marry a non-muslim man. It's supposedly in the sunnah (prophetic tradition) although I can't find a hadith supporting this view which is odd so this ruling may as well have been derived from qiyas (analogy).

    Either way, that thread was pertaining to conflict raging within an inter-religious (is that even a real word) marriage. This ruling has some wisdom regardless of the fact that it's not outlined in the Quran. The clue was in the discussion at hand - marriages breaking apart. When you have a jewish or christian man married to a muslim woman he can take advantage of his strength and compel her to disregard many of her islamic practices or even practise jewish/christian teachings that are against the Islamic faith. It's bad for the muslims considering the preservation of her freedom to practice her faith which is the no.1 concern in Islam. And it's detrimental in general as the marriage becomes oppressive, two-faced and basically screwed.
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:19 pm

    There's a reason Ace. Children MUST be Muslim. A man in a non-Muslim Man-Muslim women relation can force the woman's children to be non-Muslim. That's not the case for a Muslim man-nonmuslim woman relation.
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    Post by Doc Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:28 pm

    can we PLEASE stay on topic??

    ill crush all u fools regarding this subject as long as you make the appropriate thread

    didnt know u all liked being pwned by the sayf so much

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    Post by Ameer 2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:37 pm

    We're just trying to clear any misunderstandings by responding to allegations rather than being silent devils (as Rasulullah put it).

    Oh and np Preid, I thought it was a rhetorical question to be honest Surprised

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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:40 pm

    Ameer 2 wrote:We're just trying to clear any misunderstandings by responding to allegations rather than being silent devils (as Rasulullah put it).

    Oh and np Preid, I thought it was a rhetorical question to be honest Surprised


    lol! I'm aggressive, not uneducated.

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