and the ppl who did that are dead now...

And history also dies, right? Wrong.

It's because of their history that israel exists. It's their because of their history that many African and Asian countries are backwards.

So as I was saying, they're alive through their actions.

Lol the title made me lmao.


...but yeah this is some heavy sh!t I gotta hand it to ya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHnjq4-Ixck&feature=related

BRB FIRING ROCKETS AT THE QUEENS FAT FASE

queen is a member of the illuminati/ new world order

:O

marwa joking will get you no where ... i still feel loyalty within you for the british ...

feel all u want darling, apparently the one thing that is most likely to affect britain is Islam.. thats why the gov is so anti-islam & stuff

church of england is failing so badly so basically britain's got potential

i dun like the queen or Cameron... they don't deserve my loyalty.

Exactly, hasn't anyone (besides asya) heard of the student protests in the UK against the plan to cut EMA's? Hell we've got more anarchists here than the US will ever have...

EDL are a terrorist group targeting Muslims and foreigners

anyway im glad i dont live in britain

Wow you know about the EDL...damn. They're a 'quasi-terrorist' group - if you will - but are mainly considered a right-wing group that is known to consist of pub dwelling thugs and skinheads...they're not taken seriously here in the UK and they're a minority. Heck we had one member of the EDL at campus but even he didn't take their principles seriously. I mean muslims secretly trying to take over the country with sharia law? Hardly anyone buys that bs here in england, at the US you have the right-wing media wreaking havoc on national television like Fox news and the like...american television simply has no limits.

Speaking of religion and countries, i think all governments should be secular but allowing freedom of religion.

But under Islam there is freedom of religion.

^ to an extent

under Islamic states there's only freedom of religion until someone disagrees.

Also, sort of off topic but still hilarious, there's this quote where a guy said America will soon be ruled by a secular, Muslim government. I was just like lolwut. Does anyone know who this is?

preid1220 wrote:under Islamic states there's only freedom of religion until someone disagrees.

Aren't the jews and christians already disagreeing about Muhammad's (pbuh) prophethood?

Good point Ameer. It's not true Preid. Look at history. Look at Caliphates/Sultanates and Emirates. Those are all Islamic states/empires. Very tolerant.

I think what he meant was that they're not allowed to argue their case. Well if you're speaking about the ideal Islamic state, then that's a fallacy on your part. Because when our Prophet was at the height of his power he would still invite pagan and christian emissaries to his mosque to inform them of Islam's central tenets and would even debate them. A clear example of this is the christians of Najran when they sent their deputation to the Prophet to debate on whether Jesus(as) was divine or otherwise.

Only some of the later empires would be "intolerant"

Its not like Christian Europe where non-Christians hardly even existed, save pockets of Jews who were literally kept alive for banking

Perhaps they were tolerant in the past, But i have little faith for today.

Cuz of Western media.

the west has never been tolerant

Talwar Khan wrote:the west has never been tolerant

Nether has the east. nor the north or even the south! those evil cardinal directions.

The west is the most terroristic, imperialistic, exploitful bunch of racists the world has seen.

At least the west doesn't treat women as lower people, like Islam does.

I think we've been over this before... America doesn't use terrorism... do we really need to debate about that again?