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    Post by Ahmed Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:05 pm

    I just realized something. When I fight an enemy of my allies, my relation with my ally become much better.
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    Post by Doc Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:07 pm

    all of europe is gay
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:13 pm

    btw back to the point about the Mongols, they are indeed mostly Muslim

    You see a bunch of people carrying the name "Khan" in the Indo-Pak-Bangladesh region ... Turks and Mongols are actually closely related ...
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:15 pm

    Not back then.
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:17 pm

    what do you mean back then? Rolling Eyes

    MOST Turkic-Mongol people are Muslims ... Turks and Mongols are pretty much the same, except that the Mongols carry "Mongloid" traits and most other Turkic people carry "Caucasian" traits

    I see a bunch of brown dudes with the name Khan that aren't "white" like the Turks nor are they east Asian looking like the Mongols ... its called assimilation Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:22 pm

    They were pagan back then.
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:30 pm

    Mongols (referring to the Mongol horde) converted to Islam after the sack of Baghdad

    Turks (not referring to the Mongol horde but are from the Steppe too) converted to Islam way earlier ...

    History is freakin weird and confusing ... but the game would be 100% accurate if the Mongols were initially pagan and then became a Muslim faction IF they took Baghdad ...
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:39 pm

    That makes no sense at all. Why would they SACK Baghdad then become Muslims right away? Did you forget that the Egyptians defeated them? That must mean that hey weren't Muslim yet and they kep on advancing after the sacking of Baghdad
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:44 pm

    history is retarded ...

    but ur actually right Rolling Eyes

    they were pagan/christians when they got their arses handed to them in the battle of Ayn Jalut and then this happened:

    Hulagu returned to his lands by 1262, after the succession was finally settled with his brother Kublai Khan established as Great Khan. But when Hulagu massed his armies to attack the Mamluks and avenge the defeat at Ain Jalut, he was instead drawn into civil war with Batu Khan's brother Berke. Berke Khan, a Muslim convert, had promised retribution in his rage after Hulagu's sack of Baghdad, and allied himself with the Mamluks. He initiated a series of raids on Hulagu's territories, led by Nogai Khan. Hulagu suffered a severe defeat in an attempted invasion north of the Caucasus in 1263. This was the first open war between Mongols, and signaled the end of the unified empire.
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:48 pm

    Wow that's cool. Ayn Jalut was like Tours for Mongols.

    Imagine if Egypt hadn't stopped them...N. Africa and Northern M. East would be pagan today. Alhamdulilah.
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:50 pm

    yeah big props to Egypt ... but who knows, Halaku's relative Berke Khan probably would've finished them off or the Turks of Anatolia ...

    Mamluks used guns in that battle btw ... handguns too ..
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:53 pm

    Turks were too busy with Byzantines.

    I don't think we can assume stuff would happen in history if something changed...so yeah.

    Handguns?? Hilarious serious? They were invented back then?
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:10 pm

    let relive the glory days noob Hilarious

    The Battle of Ain Jalut is also notable for being the earliest known battle where explosive hand cannons (midfa in Arabic) were used. These explosives were employed by the Mamluk Egyptians in order to frighten the Mongol horses and cavalry and cause disorder in their ranks. The explosive gunpowder compositions of these cannon were later described in Arabic chemical and military manuals in the early 14th century.[9][10]

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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:13 pm

    Mongols (Halaku Khan's hordes) had an alliance with the christians too ... so in a way, it was a proxy Muslim-Christian war ...
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:14 pm

    Noob. Re-Read...hand CANNONS. Yes, they used cannons. Military smart!
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:18 pm

    dude HAND cannons ... they were basically HAND GUNS ... but not like a revolver type thing you're thinking of Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:20 pm

    You see that Arabic word that they wrote? That means cannon in Arabic.
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    Post by Doc Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:22 pm

    whatever dude Rolling Eyes

    they were the first to use them and that's what counts ... but of course you'll have Euros right there to claims some stupid revisionist history Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Ahmed Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:23 pm

    History is written by the victors...some BS that they say.
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    Post by Ahmed Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:19 pm

    Teutonic Order eliminated Lithuania.

    Cuman Khanate is expanding like crazy. It went through the Turks and now borders me. I'm getting ready to fight it
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    Post by Doc Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:31 pm

    call some jihads noob ... ASAP
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    Post by Ahmed Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:33 pm

    I did. I just called one on Constantiople. All Muslim factions joined. Turks are getting crushed by Byzantine and Cuman Khanate, so I'm helping out.

    But the bastards of Venice and Hungary ate annoying me in my land that used to be Greece
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    Post by Doc Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:34 pm

    dude lol ... i only call Jihads on places that are close and border me ... with the exception of Rome ... Constantinople is not that close to Egypt Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Ahmed Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:41 pm

    I have land in Southern Europe. So yes it is lol.
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    Post by Ahmed Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:44 pm

    Lol I'm receiving Ghazis for the Jihad

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