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    Post by Doc Mon May 02, 2011 6:42 pm

    Was he killed in cold blood out of vengeance and spite when no longer a threat? What does the crowd of raving animals celebrating someones death reveal about the hearts of the American public?

    What does fighting upon his own wealth for nearly a decade against the self admitted most "powerful (also pompous and arrogant) military" in the world reveal about his character?

    Or was he just a terrorist out there to "kill Americans" for no apparent reason?

    Is one mans freedom fighter, another's terrorist?
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    Post by IR Mon May 02, 2011 7:21 pm

    I have the feeling he is not die yet. aware
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    Post by L Mon May 02, 2011 7:45 pm

    Funny you said that last sentence Sayf. My AP World teacher sophomore year said the same thing.

    He believed he was standing up for the Muslims who have been oppressed for centuries. He even once said his reason. He said that during the Lebanon-israel war in the 80s he would watch as israel would strike at schools at hospitals using US made weapons. So 9/11 was supposed to show the Americans how that felt like.

    Furthermore, you know that Osama is rich right? He abandoned his millions to fight in what he believed.

    I guess every person will view him differently.
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    Post by Craig Mon May 02, 2011 8:20 pm

    Mishil wrote:I have the feeling he is not die yet. aware
    I would believe that.
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    Post by L Mon May 02, 2011 8:26 pm

    For the sake of the debate assume that he died
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    Post by Craig Mon May 02, 2011 8:30 pm

    This debate is clearly raised upon religion & patriotism. So this is pretty much bias.
    But I think he died for a cause.
    & That cause wasn't loved by all (if it was then it wouldn't be a cause, now would it?)
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    Post by L Mon May 02, 2011 8:40 pm

    Any debate is based on bias.
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    Post by Doc Mon May 02, 2011 9:00 pm

    But honestly, all he wanted was to restore the honor and dignity of the Muslims that had fallen so low. But in the grand scheme of things, are his attacks really not justified when America was putting sanctions on countries like Iraq in the 90s causing the death of over a million children?

    He fought for what he believed in and at the last moment continued to fight.
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    Post by L Mon May 02, 2011 9:06 pm

    Yeah he did. Even though I still think 9/11 was an inside job.
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    Post by Coolmeia Tue May 03, 2011 7:32 pm

    meh I feel happy that he died (if he did) but when i first read the news article i thought it said obama dead so I was happy. then i read the bin laden part and i was a bit disappointed...
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    Post by Craig Tue May 03, 2011 7:43 pm

    Why praise another human's death? That makes you no better than killing another of your kind.
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    Post by L Tue May 03, 2011 7:44 pm

    ^^^My point.
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    Post by Coolmeia Tue May 03, 2011 7:45 pm

    Eh, I don't really care, since my anime crush after all kills many people and starts an entire genicide and several wars but I'm okay with that...
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    Post by Coolmeia Tue May 03, 2011 7:45 pm

    anyways, one person's life doesn't really matter to me that much
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    Post by L Tue May 03, 2011 7:47 pm

    That's what Anime has reduced you to...
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    Post by Coolmeia Tue May 03, 2011 7:51 pm

    *grins an evil twisted grin* no, i used to find delight in other's misery LONNNG before anime
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    Post by L Tue May 03, 2011 7:52 pm

    Many are like you in the West.
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    Post by Craig Tue May 03, 2011 7:52 pm

    I don't care if someone dies or not. But we should make this world worth fighting for. A good first step would be not to be happy of one's death, but to support them as another human, no matter their history.
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    Post by Coolmeia Tue May 03, 2011 7:52 pm

    suppoert them? but he's dead...
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    Post by Craig Tue May 03, 2011 7:55 pm

    Praise him in his death, everyday several people die, just pray that they had a life worth living & for a great afterlife.
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    Post by Ace Tue May 03, 2011 8:12 pm

    He doesn't deserve any praise.
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    Post by L Tue May 03, 2011 8:13 pm

    So why do American soldiers do?
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    Post by Ace Tue May 03, 2011 8:49 pm

    Good soldiers do deserve praise because they do what they're told and they serve their country. The media just concentrates on what the bad soldiers do. Unnecessary killing, raping, etc shouldn't be praised and those soldiers should burn in hell for it. Why do you always target a wide variety of people and label them all as one? You're no different from the American media at all.
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    Post by L Tue May 03, 2011 8:51 pm

    I don't think Americans will agree with you. I don't think that any American will say that any soldier deserves to burn in hell. Do you think the US gov is not aware of what these "bad" soldiers do?
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    Post by Doc Tue May 03, 2011 9:06 pm

    Ace wrote:He doesn't deserve any praise.

    He deserves praise for fighting to protect his home from invaders for nearly a decade on his own wealth

    Other than that, there's not much I agree with ... like his targeting of civilians ... he knows its against the Shari'ah to do so, under any circumstances ...

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