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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:43 pm

No we aren't. You need to say

"The people of Egypt during the Hellenistic/Muslim/Christian/Ancient days..."

You just don't say Egyptians were.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:44 pm

i lost u on that part ^^

we were still referring to the square piece of land in the North East of Africa.. Mellow
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Post by Dark Flame99966 Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:46 pm

Germany was still Germany when Nazis took over... Germany is still Germany now without the Nazis..

also... according to ur def, Egypt ain't a country...
niice..
Uhm, Prussia took away part of Germany, Germany used to be part of the Frankish rule before Clovis broke away and went into unpopulated France, leaving the Ostrogoths to go into the area we now call Germany and Clovis having more than what we now call France.
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:47 pm

Yeah but as we said no one gives a crap about the name and place.

We care about the people, history and gov of that place.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:52 pm

sorry Glory, i still don't get u... and i won't change my mind.. sorry slanty

back to the main issue of England...
why blame all the people of England and not the individuals responsible for the occupation of Egypt & Pakistan??
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:59 pm

I really don't care if you don't. But Ill go ahead and tell you now that you will seem very ifnorant if you are going to talk to other people with the shallow ideology that a country is a place and a name.

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Because those individuals were the armies. The armies come from the people. People = country
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:01 pm

the people are dead now.. right?

and don't call me ignorant coz i have a different opinion to u Rolling Eyes
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:04 pm

This is not a matter of opinion. This is a matter of being educated or not.

Like a guy coming out and saying that's a yellow circle in the sky. Yes it is, but its known as the sun.

Histroy is still there.

As I said before, why do you hate israel? Hiistory isn't important according to you.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:07 pm

i'm very well educated thank you very much...

I hate israel coz its basically doin Genocide...
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:09 pm

Well your so called "opinion" doesn't imply that.

How about if it stops? Then israel is ok?
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:12 pm

my opinion is mine alone.. if its not of a high enough standard for u, then don't confront me about it..

theft is also wrong..
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:15 pm

Go learn what's an opinion and what's not, please.

What theft?
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:16 pm

i already know.. Wink
its u who needs to learn to accept others' opinions..

theft of palestinian land..
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:20 pm

I respect other OPINIONS. But what you are saying is ignorance...lack of education.

Stealing land...hmmm... but that's history...and the people that stole it are dead.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:26 pm

its is MY opinion Glory... u can either define a country from a geographical point of view or a philosophical/history/politics point of view...
i choose geographical.. goodness!!

they're still doing it now tho....
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:33 pm

And as I said no educated person will say geographical. But wither way cheers on being proud of some land, mountains and hills called England.
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Yeah I said if they stopped stealing land/killing...you will be good with them?
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:42 pm

Glory wrote:And as I said no educated person will say geographical.
quit insulting me already.. u've said that in every single post so far....


But wither way cheers on being proud of some land, mountains and hills called England.
u obviously didn't get a single thing i said..


Yeah I said if they stopped stealing land/killing...you will be good with them?
Then Israel wouldn't exist.. Wink
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:47 pm

1. I'm not insulting you. Ask anyone.

2. You either failed at explaining your view or you don't know what the heck you are talking about. Clearly you were the one arguing about a "geographical" country.

3. We aren,t talking about its theft in its history...that's history...which to you doesn't matter.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:51 pm

Glory wrote:1. I'm not insulting you. Ask anyone.
saying i'm not educated is pretty much an insult

2. You either failed at explaining your view or you don't know what the heck you are talking about. Clearly you were the one arguing about a "geographical" country.
i was on about blaimn individuals rather than a whole nation... lol

3. We aren,t talking about its theft in its history...that's history...which to you doesn't matter.
if Israel stops killin ppl and stealin land then i wouldn't have a problem with it... coz it wouldn't exist Rolling Eyes
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:58 pm

1. I'm sorry if I told I'm telling you what other people would think. Was trying to help you.

2.Individuals are usually high ranked people. Those high ranked people were voted by the people. And the army comes from the people. Hence, blaming the country is valid.

3. Yes it would. If history doesn't matter then it would have all the land except gaza and west bank. They took the rest back then...when it didn't matter because it is history.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:05 pm

people don't actively take part in occupying a country.. so i wouldn't blame them

i'm talkin about now... lol
and history does matter... we learn from it...
i just don't think we can use it to judge a country...
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:08 pm

The soldiers came from the people.

Yeah, now, they would still exist. They would stop at the 1967 borders.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:15 pm

blame the soldiers then.. not al the people lol

israel never existed.. w/e they have is due to theft..
so no it wouldn't..
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Post by Ahmed Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:24 pm

The soldiers came from the freaking people. The gov that ordered the action came from the freaking people. Stop kidding yourself god damn it.

Nope. That's history. We are talking about now. Its exists. So why hate it. Don't blame a country because of its history as you said.
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Post by The Banker Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:29 pm

i'm one of those people... why blame me for what the gov does? Mellow

its history is continuing now... so yeah i would still hate it Mellow
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