Alamgir wrote:

Ace wrote:

Alamgir wrote:

preid1220 wrote:

Marwa wrote:communism is evilll O.O

current communist governments are evil, but communism is just a concept made in order to better peoples lives, to say it is evil is like me saying Islam is evil.

do you always have to pull that card?

a better example would be that christiantity is evil, since the rejection of christianity is what brought genocide upon the native americans

It's not like Islamic religion has ever sparked war.

No form of communism is good. The original communism says that everyone is payed equally. Should a brain surgeon who's constantly pressured by everyone around get payed the same as an apartment janitor?

that's not the point, he brought religion in when he had no business doing so ... this is about communism, not religion so it is my job to dispel his propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Conquests
Wahabbists
most wars waged by Islamic nations after Mohamed's death,

What i am getting at is that, yes, Muslims do fight and ofter amongst themselves, the Kurds as an example. Now they are not evil because of war, nor do i believe the religion is evil at all! (although i do have my questions about a few dictatorial leaders who use Islam to justify unmentionable items). What i was comparing this to is the fact that although many 'westerners' as you kindly refer to us as do consider Islam evil, it is truly not, and nether is communism, it is simply an idea and a way of life, is equality for doing a job your good at a bad thing? Now if there is any other confusions about my post please direct them before attacking Christianity so i may go over them



p.s. the expansion into America was fueled by desire for raw materials, not religious violence although this is a time notable to it's religious instability that was used to persuade religious minority groups to escape the uglier persecution of Europe and instead try to eek out a living in the new world.

I do mean the idea. It fails IRL.

preid1220 wrote:

Alamgir wrote:

Ace wrote:

Alamgir wrote:

preid1220 wrote:

Marwa wrote:communism is evilll O.O

current communist governments are evil, but communism is just a concept made in order to better peoples lives, to say it is evil is like me saying Islam is evil.

do you always have to pull that card?

a better example would be that christiantity is evil, since the rejection of christianity is what brought genocide upon the native americans

It's not like Islamic religion has ever sparked war.

No form of communism is good. The original communism says that everyone is payed equally. Should a brain surgeon who's constantly pressured by everyone around get payed the same as an apartment janitor?

that's not the point, he brought religion in when he had no business doing so ... this is about communism, not religion so it is my job to dispel his propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Conquests
Wahabbists
most wars waged by Islamic nations after Mohamed's death,

What i am getting at is that, yes, Muslims do fight and ofter amongst themselves, the Kurds as an example. Now they are not evil because of war, nor do i believe the religion is evil at all! (although i do have my questions about a few dictatorial leaders who use Islam to justify unmentionable items). What i was comparing this to is the fact that although many 'westerners' as you kindly refer to us as do consider Islam evil, it is truly not, and nether is communism, it is simply an idea and a way of life, is equality for doing a job your good at a bad thing? Now if there is any other confusions about my post please direct them before attacking Christianity so i may go over them



p.s. the expansion into America was fueled by desire for raw materials, not religious violence although this is a time notable to it's religious instability that was used to persuade religious minority groups to escape the uglier persecution of Europe and instead try to eek out a living in the new world.

maybe you should've used a different example but i understand

and you can decide for yourself on the nature of the battles of the Prophet (saw) and the 4 rightly guided khalifs (ra) .. one for example was the Battle of Mut'ah which happened to be the first battle between the Byzantines and the Muslims that was sparked by the assassination of Muslim emissaries ...

well no side in politics are good or bad, we live in a world where no one is right about/for every thing

preid1220 wrote:well no side in politics are good or bad, we live in a world where no one is right about/for every thing except sayf

yup

you do know i can edit your post