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i want your opinion on this video, because it has seriously brought my respect level down again.
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i didnt watch the video but I know what its about ... just a small amount of angry overzealous people who can't control themselves ... I GARUNTEE that there were Buddhist and Christians upset with SP when they were insulting Jesus (as) and Buddha but of course they don't get coverage because they're not Muslims
SP should think twice before attacking religious figures ... like those homo danish hypocritical idiots who posted nonsense in their newspaper of Muhammad (saw) but refused to when such images mocking Jesus (as) were submitted ..
Prophet Muhammad (saw) is already the most maligned religious figure in history .. thanks to christianity and christian missionaries .. honestly if you don't want to start somethin serious these insults and defamation needs to end ..
i think you people need to have some *Bad* respect, pardon my french
SP should think twice before attacking religious figures ... like those homo danish hypocritical idiots who posted nonsense in their newspaper of Muhammad (saw) but refused to when such images mocking Jesus (as) were submitted ..
Prophet Muhammad (saw) is already the most maligned religious figure in history .. thanks to christianity and christian missionaries .. honestly if you don't want to start somethin serious these insults and defamation needs to end ..
i think you people need to have some *Bad* respect, pardon my french
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sayf what i was referring to was the fact that the Quran, according to the extremist, actually supports terrorism then continues to state the mass murder of 9/11 was justified. neither the catholic group nor the Buddhist group filed any complaints, namely death threats. I have a much higher opinion of the Muslim member of this board and so i would like them to denounce the murderous actions of such terrorist.
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i can quote verses from the bible and say make the same conclusions ... what the media won't tell you is the numerous fatwas from the ulema (scholars) denouncing terrorism ... the Qur'an supports the defense of Islam and Muslims by arms .. and all of the verses concerning jihad and qital (fighting) have to be looked at together ...
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all i am saying is extremist take this to heart to justify the attacks of 9/11, would you call this just?
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are you asking my personal opinion?
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yes, as well as all the other Muslim members.
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I honestly don't like our Prophet depicted at all but it's no reason to get your panties in a bunch.
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I didn't watch the video because I have a slow laptop, so it's going to ruin everything, but according to the title, I assume South Park showed an episode which mocked religion?
If they don't want that, just don't watch it, it's none of my business what the people far from me do.
Btw, I love South Park.
We could say the same thing about the Simpsons then or any other cartoon.
If they don't want that, just don't watch it, it's none of my business what the people far from me do.
Btw, I love South Park.
We could say the same thing about the Simpsons then or any other cartoon.
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preid1220 wrote:yes, as well as all the other Muslim members.
y do want to hear constant condemnations from Muslims regarding these events?
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Ok. These are my points:
9/11 is not jutified by Islam. Since the people that died for civilians. The Prophet (SAW) said to kill only those who kill you.
The Prophet (SAW) dhould not be decipted in any ways. And any decipition will be seen as an agression.
9/11 is not jutified by Islam. Since the people that died for civilians. The Prophet (SAW) said to kill only those who kill you.
The Prophet (SAW) dhould not be decipted in any ways. And any decipition will be seen as an agression.
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why hide the face of man?
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Ahmed IV wrote:Ok. These are my points:
9/11 is not jutified by Islam. Since the people that died for civilians. The Prophet (SAW) said to kill only those who kill you.
The Prophet (SAW) dhould not be decipted in any ways. And any decipition will be seen as an agression.
1- So the religion of peace justifies murder as long as its an eye for an eye? seems a bit underhanded but ok.
2- I understand that but can't you guys send an angry letter or hold a peaceful protest like all the other religions who don't resort to murder as their first option when offended?
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1. Yes. That is justice.
'S what should happen. Killing should be the very last thing.
'S what should happen. Killing should be the very last thing.
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He (saw) ordered us not to make any physical depiction of him .. look what happened to Jesus (as) .. you got Christians making statues (idols) of him, paintings, pictures etc.. and they literally worship these images ... same with Mary (as) ...
According to Shari'ah you are permitted to take arms against those who oppress and kill you .. now if you think that is murder than you have no concept of justice ... but noncombatants are not to be attacked or killed ... and if they incline towards peace then you have to as well ... oppression justifies physically fighting back ..
If defending the honor of our Prophet (saw) is a terrorism then we are terrorist .. how about you stop attacking our religion?
According to Shari'ah you are permitted to take arms against those who oppress and kill you .. now if you think that is murder than you have no concept of justice ... but noncombatants are not to be attacked or killed ... and if they incline towards peace then you have to as well ... oppression justifies physically fighting back ..
If defending the honor of our Prophet (saw) is a terrorism then we are terrorist .. how about you stop attacking our religion?
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Actually, you're the ones who keep attacking us just for how we live.Noob Killer wrote:He (saw) ordered us not to make any physical depiction of him .. look what happened to Jesus (as) .. you got Christians making statues (idols) of him, paintings, pictures etc.. and they literally worship these images ... same with Mary (as) ...
According to Shari'ah you are permitted to take arms against those who oppress and kill you .. now if you think that is murder than you have no concept of justice ... but noncombatants are not to be attacked or killed ... and if they incline towards peace then you have to as well ... oppression justifies physically fighting back ..
If defending the honor of our Prophet (saw) is a terrorism then we are terrorist .. how about you stop attacking our religion?
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i am restating what an extremist Muslim stated in the video, and he does not seem very different from some of the members on here and wanted your opinions, i remind you i am remaining indiscriminate and any questions i ask are only for clarifying the subject. When you state "you are permitted to take arms against those who oppress and kill you .. now if you think that is murder than you have no concept of justice ... but noncombatants are not to be attacked or killed" are you implying that Muslims are not allowed to declare war, only fight in self defense?
p.s. i agree with jj, you do act quite pushy at times.
p.s. i agree with jj, you do act quite pushy at times.
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Pried tell us whom those members are that have similar views?
Jj, you got it all wrong. Its the West that's going to other countries and forcing their lifestyle on them
Jj, you got it all wrong. Its the West that's going to other countries and forcing their lifestyle on them
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ok then y the hell do we find forced Western ideals everywhere in Muslim lands? Why are there armies in Iraq when it had nothing to do with 9/11? the colonization of Muslim lands by the British etc. warranted lawful Jihad.. Muslims are the not the type of people whom you can force your ways on .. or intimidate
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And what about the pre 9/11 time? You couldn't just leave us alone? Your extremists brought this upon themselves, because it could have been Pax America (Time of peace in America) for ourselves and you could worship anything you fricking want.Noob Killer wrote:ok then y the hell do we find forced Western ideals everywhere in Muslim lands? Why are there armies in Iraq when it had nothing to do with 9/11? the colonization of Muslim lands by the British etc. warranted lawful Jihad.. Muslims are the not the type of people whom you can force your ways on .. or intimidate
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i never condoned 9/11 and the people who did it claim that they did it because of western imperialism
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jj i think you are approaching this with a bit of a closed mind, but sayf prior to westernization were the Arab nations not under developed and in shambles? I personally do not agree with the actions of my ancestors but had they not happen the world as we know it would not exist, for better or worse.
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I just wanted to say that you can't cite 9/11 as "you attacked us first" .. and we are not the type of people who you can simply invoke genocide upon like the original inhabitants of the Americas ... or enslave like the Africans ...
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You think we're still like that? Which country is the first to give African Americans rights? What country now gives land back to the original Native American tribes? What we did back then was because we were still learning about the world and being curious, just like your people were too as well.
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well other than the fact that you are the type that was enslaved, this struggle dates back to when America was first founded, this was thus the fuel that relit the fire and happened to be from the Islamic side side time, although unjustly so.
btw jj that prior statement was totally wrong man.
btw jj that prior statement was totally wrong man.
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