For or Against? Why?

against, everyone will halve health care, but your doctor will be from turbo tax, and this will probably lead to the cutting of many jobs. We will be FORCED to pay for health care, even if we dont want it and it has proven it's failure.


i would also like to point out that alot of money is being given to shady areas.

So you want people who can't afford to die?

Ahmed IV wrote:So you want people who can't afford to die?

sad to say, but it is usually of there own fault that they die. then again nothing is perfect.

Sometimes it isn't their fault. It should be the government's responsibility to take care of its citizens.

but this is not the answer, this wont fix anything, bit instead put a failed system in power so those who should get help cant.

Then what's the answer?

Republicans are uneducated about this. You don't need to take the government option. You can keep what you have.
And how is it someone's fault if they die? Poor people don't want to be poor. They can't find a job though.
America needs the healthcare reform because now, insurance companies can remove you from your plan at their will. If you're diagnosed with something expensive like HIV or Leuchemia, they can make you pay for all of the costs, which most people can't do.

but if your poor and do nothing about it, your at fault. You have total control over your life and the fact that your poor means you made poor choices. I dare you fang, to go live with the 'poor people' and tell me it is really not there fault.

That's not true Pried. That's only in an ideal world where you "have total control over you life". Some people were burn as bums, how the heck are they supposed to help themselves? And even, some people work 24/7 yet hardly make any money!

life is hard, if you fail in one area try to exile in another. This is a dog eat dog world Ahmed and giving everybody what they wart will only spoil them. did appeasement work for great Briton?

^and if that's hard to comprehend, this is the first step to America becoming a communist nation. Do you want to live in the next china?

i haven't been to the US.. but apparently its health care SUCKS...
its all private and ppl have to pay to get better
The US should have an NHS instead of wasting its money fighting random countries in the middle east...

I'm against it...like Ahmed said, it should be the government's responsibility to take care of it's citizens. The US government has an endless pocket of money, and they aren't doing anything with it.

^And they aren't fighting random countries in the mid east...They're helping countries create stable governments.

^That's what the healthcare reforming is trying to do
And that's complete bull. The US is simply trying to create more puppet governments to help them dominate the region. They already have Israel and Egypt under their thumbs.

Trying to make more puppet governments? If the US wanted to do that, they would've already. They're the most powerful nation on Earth. The US just shares weapons, etc. with Isreal, and the government doesn't have any power Egypt. The Middle East has lots of extremeists who just want to mass murder the American population. That was proven in 9/11.

Warhawk360 wrote:I'm against it...like Ahmed said, it should be the government's responsibility to take care of it's citizens. The US government has an endless pocket of money, and they aren't doing anything with it.

^And they aren't fighting random countries in the mid east...They're helping countries create stable governments.

ha! that made me lol....

Trying to make more puppet governments? If
the US wanted to do that, they would've already. They're the most
powerful nation on Earth. The US just shares weapons, etc. with Isreal,
and the government doesn't have any power Egypt. The Middle East has
lots of extremeists who just want to mass murder the American
population. That was proven in 9/11.

Nope. They're doing it now. Just in increments. They know they can't do it all at once. Its weapons are the only thing keeping Israel alive right now so they blindly follow the US, and Egypt has a president that sucks up to the US so much.

And 9/11 was perpetrated by 9 men. That's so many extremists right? No. The Middle East wouldn't have any extremists if it wasn't for the West and the US.

if not for the west and the us the middle east would have nothing. Terrorist are created because of religion so the only answer is to ban the teaching of religion in schools and reduce the cultural impact.

Terrorism has no religion Preid

Those 9 men were from large groups of extremists. None of them can control their hate for the world, and since the US is the most powerful nation, it's their job to make sure extremists don't get WMDs. The Black Market isn't hard to find in some countries. If the US hadn't interfered, the world might not be here right now.

Egypt has a president that sucks up to the US so much.

He's probably doing what's best for his people. The US buys a lot of cotton, and doesn't Egypt sell lots of cotton? If the stock market hadn't crashed, Egypt would be doing better.

Terrorism has no religion Preid

Many muslims hate everyone who isn't a muslim. Tons of wars happened just because of religion.

Warhawk360 wrote:

Terrorism has no religion Preid

Many muslims hate everyone who isn't a muslim. Tons of wars happened just because of religion.

terrorists aren't muslims... its all against the teachings of islam so ppl who are terrorists aren't muslims... use logic man

How did we reach the point of debating about religion again?

Nah Marwa, we can't say anyones a kaffir. Terrorists are Muslims whom have gone astray.

Warhawk, do you personally know any Muslims whom hate all non-Muslims?

Isn't there a civil war between the Muslims for the power of the Caliph?

Ahmed IV wrote:How did we reach the point of debating about religion again?

Nah Marwa, we can't say anyones a kaffir. Terrorists are Muslims whom have gone astray.

Warhawk, do you personally know any Muslims whom hate all non-Muslims?

sorry man.. but i disagree

Warhawk, do you personally know any Muslims whom hate all non-Muslims?

I do, actually. And she's a real pain in the neck...but I guess I really shouldn't have said 'many', but there are some.