Master Steve wrote:no its ok sayf. It is my oppinion that the qur'an lies about jesis.

u still neva said why would god let his son die??
astaghfaruAllah...

he didn't just let him die but he wanted him to.

which i think was to immortalise him.

alright this is getting really stupid now .. honestly this dude is just making up whatever comes into his mind to disagree with Islam

bye sayf

you're just offering your baseless opinion ... no evidence to corroborate any claim

Master Steve wrote:he didn't just let him die but he wanted him to.

which i think was to immortalise him.

god would have made him immortal to begin with, no??

marwa asked for my oppinion.

im not a christian anyway thats why i was avoiding this topic before.

but of course you came in here to offer your opinion of the Qur'aan "lying" (naoozubillah) .. couldnt resist that could you

god probably could have if he wanted but you guys think he can see the future too, perhaps that lead to a bad situation.

i entered this thread when people were agreeing with me sayf.

and i think i am allowed an oppinion. Dont you?

Master Steve wrote:god probably could have if he wanted but you guys think he can see the future too, perhaps that lead to a bad situation.

stop

god had a mortal son, in order to save us. also i do believe that sayf is violating of the new rule and deserves a verbal warning.

preid1220 wrote:god had a mortal son, in order to save us. also i do believe that sayf is violating of the new rule and deserves a verbal warning.

why a mortal son??
AstaghfaruAllah...

me and sayf were both a bit wrong.

i dont really feel like punishing him for it so lets just call this the transitional period.

sayf we gotta shape up and respect each other. Im sorry about my conduct earlier.

Petit Pois wrote:

preid1220 wrote:god had a mortal son, in order to save us. also i do believe that sayf is violating of the new rule and deserves a verbal warning.

why a mortal son??
AstaghfaruAllah...

that's up to interpretation, I feel that god gave us his son as a mortal, because if he had not it would force others to accept him and not allow them to choose for them self.

Master Steve wrote:me and sayf were both a bit wrong.

i dont really feel like punishing him for it so lets just call this the transitional period.

sayf we gotta shape up and respect each other. Im sorry about my conduct earlier.

^very nice verbal

Petit Pois wrote:

preid1220 wrote:god had a mortal son, in order to save us. also i do believe that sayf is violating of the new rule and deserves a verbal warning.

why a mortal son??
AstaghfaruAllah...

which makes no sense .. He needs a mortal son to kill himself in order to save you??

sayf i'm not the one to fight about whit this, the way i see is is he gave the ultimate sacrifice for us and i can respect that but you cant so what. I dont give a dam what you think any more, to each his own.

god had a mortal son, in order to save us.

God has no seed as he is not human. He cannot make a son. He can make a human, but thinking that God is incomprehensible also means that he is not a human or works like one so that he cannot possibly have a son.

Also, I do know how crucifixion works, it would have taken several hours for Jesus to die if he were on it and if his disciples had seen him there, why had they not saved him? And why would Judas have any motivation to betray Jesus if he had seen all his miracles?

And I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us rock worshipers. It's blatantly racist no matter how you intended it.

flame read a bible man, also can we change this topics title to discuss Jesus

For which points exactly? The Bible isn't too clear for what I'm asking.

But ok, for Jesus, if he can be killed and then reborn in three days, why is the possibility of God taking him into the Heavens and making someone appear to look like him out of the question? Why is it so blatantly implausible if you're accepting rebirth?

we've already discussed the meaning of the phrase "son of God" in biblical context and i have referred to many verses and you're telling flame to read the bible?

Look at what God says to David:

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (Psalms 2:7)