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    There is no God, no heaven and no hell.

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    Post by Steve Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:52 am

    i couldn't see the logic in Gods actions.
    The answers i knew didn't give me what i wanted.

    thats basically it, but since then i have realised people have been waiting for a second coming for almost 2000 years, it is a poor way to spend a life if this really is all you gat.
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    Post by The Banker Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:55 am

    innit not believing in god feels a little lonely?? :S
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    Post by Steve Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:08 am

    no, i have people for companionship. if anything it makes you a more social person.
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    Post by The Banker Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:06 pm

    kkz man Rolling Eyes
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    Post by preid1220 Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:45 pm

    Petit Pois wrote:hmmmm
    i would like there to be fairies and pixies....

    is that enough??

    you dont even know what fairies are, and why is Islam filled with spiteful people who force themselves upon others?
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    Post by The Banker Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:19 pm

    how is islam full of spiteful ppl Preid??
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    Post by Steve Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:35 pm

    take it to the islam topic, this thread is about me Razz
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    Post by The Banker Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:36 pm

    sorry Razz
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    Post by Paradox Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:21 am

    preid1220 wrote:
    Paradox wrote:This thread is now about atheist jokes.

    So I was in a bar and a man sneezed so I said god bless you and he said sorry I'm an atheist so I said what do you say when you sneeze? When you die nothing happens?

    this is not for jokes and that was not funny =P

    personally i can see your reason for speculations and i wish you luck with your life.

    Lighten up man. Did you not get the memo that internet forums are for fun?
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    Post by Egyptian Gazelle Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:06 am

    Steve if you believe in evolution then how was the veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy first thing created?
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    Post by Steve Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:20 am

    it depends on how big your thinking, i believe one of the first living things was similar to blue green algae.

    im not much of an expert in that area but i would think its a freak chance. Primordial soup sounds good to me.
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    Post by preid1220 Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:00 am

    steves on the right track, the early earth was just screaming for life to be created with all of the gasses and such a bolt of lightning could create a single cell organism that survived in volcanic pools.
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    Post by Doc Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:25 pm

    lol you people are clowns ... do you have any idea how complex a cell is? let alone cell organelles .. or even macromolecules ... the simplest protein is far more complex than you can even imagine ... and it couldn't last long without the proper PH level, salt concentration or temperature ...


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    Post by Steve Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:31 pm

    ok, so i may not have an answer that I'm as sure about as you are about yours. But it is an alternative to creationism, and i know it must be hard to determine something that happened so long ago, we will probably never have anything more than a theory.

    But i don't see proof of God making us either. Accepting that i don't know is better than trusting an answer that i dont believe.

    It's not always worse to not know the answer, and the origin of life has so little impact on my life, it is not something i need to know.

    so, where did God come from?
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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:35 pm

    I would debate, but I find it pointless tbh. Allah guides who He wishes:

    " It is true thou wilt not be able to guide every one, whom thou lovest; but Allah guides those whom He will and He knows best those who receive guidance." (28:56)

    I'll only inform people of Islam and that's it. Debating is not my job. It is the job of every person to debate what is wrong from right by themselves.
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    Post by Steve Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:39 pm

    "God cannot communicate with men" steve (23:39)
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    Post by preid1220 Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:54 pm

    so god only loved those who worships him whom he hand picks? You should just go back to rock worshiping Ahmed, it's better for you. BTW sayf it's complex because that's what we make of it, human knowledge is not perfect yet but believing a invisible man eons old created us out of thin air is a joke!
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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:22 pm

    No Pried. Everyone has an equal chance. Yet some people, Allah Knows, will never accept the Truth. So He has blinded them.

    Pried please learn the manners of debating before I warn you. Debate all you want, but don't personally attack anyone.
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    Post by Steve Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:24 pm

    oh, so its allah's fault that i reject him now? because he is blinded me even though he apparently knew i would never turn to islam anyway>
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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:27 pm

    Everyone has an equal chance. Yet some people, Allah Knows, will never accept the Truth. So He has blinded them.

    Those people choose to go astray. And Allah guides whom he pleases.
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    Post by Steve Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:29 pm

    i dont understand why he blinds them, and what does he blind them to?

    i think they had to give allah the last word so they rejecting allah leads him to do something meaningless.
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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:31 pm

    He blinds them to continue their path of astrayness.
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    Post by Steve Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:33 pm

    which they had decided they would take before they were blinded...
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    Post by Ahmed Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:34 pm

    Yes.
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    Post by preid1220 Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:33 pm

    so he blinds them just because he thinks he will never change, i dont think you will ever change so should i just assume your set in stone?

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