Re: Islam is the Truth. Do you object?

by **The Banker** Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:16 pm

^^ agreed...

by **preid1220** Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:35 pm

Sultan Ahmed IV wrote:Faith isn't an ability. It's the concept of adhering to a religion.

I am a slave of Allah. May Allah guide you away from the devil that's blinding you.

to become a slave is to revoke gods gift of free will, is it not?

by **Ahmed** Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:41 pm

Well I do have the free will to be Allah's slave. And I choose to do so.

by **preid1220** Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:43 pm

Sultan Ahmed IV wrote:Well I do have the free will to be Allah's slave. And I choose to do so.

a slave is not free, you contradict yourself!

by **Ahmed** Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:48 pm

I am free if I am the one that choose to live so.

by **preid1220** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:00 pm

you did not chose this, your parents did by raising you as a Muslim. The sad truth is we dont get to chose who we are or what we do, only after we accept this we can try to pain it in a favorable direction.

by **Egyptian Gazelle** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:02 pm

Just to go back a little, pigs are the most disgusting and filthy animals on the face of this earth!Even if I wasn't Muslim I wouldn't dare eat them!

by **Egyptian Gazelle** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:08 pm

preid1220 wrote:you did not chose this, your parents did by raising you as a Muslim. The sad truth is we dont get to chose who we are or what we do, only after we accept this we can try to pain it in a favorable direction.

Out parents bought us up as Muslims but we have the choice to deviate from Islam. We are not forced to do so, but we are smart enough and we know that Islam is a beautiful religon.

by **preid1220** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:12 pm

Egyptian Gazelle wrote:Just to go back a little, pigs are the most disgusting and filthy animals on the face of this earth!Even if I wasn't Muslim I wouldn't dare eat them!

pigs are cleaner than you, THAN YOU!

by **Ahmed** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:15 pm

EDIT: ........

by **Doc** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:20 pm

alright people lets not personally attack each other ...

by **Egyptian Gazelle** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:21 pm

preid1220 wrote:
Egyptian Gazelle wrote:Just to go back a little, pigs are the most disgusting and filthy animals on the face of this earth!Even if I wasn't Muslim I wouldn't dare eat them!

pigs are cleaner than you, THAN YOU!

and i'll pretend I didn't see that

by **Ahmed** Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:21 pm

Sorry...I guess I sort of forgot myself...I apologize.

by **Nick Peter** Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:05 am

Egyptian Gazelle wrote:Just to go back a little, pigs are the most disgusting and filthy animals on the face of this earth!Even if I wasn't Muslim I wouldn't dare eat them!

Why are pigs dirty? Because they roll around in mud all day? I can very safely tell you that pork is cleaned before it gets sold to you.

Religion is for those that don't want to think for themselves. You can't prove a single thing about it.

by **Doc** Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:29 am

preid still hasnt told us why Christians are allowed to consume pork when Jesus (as) never gave permission to Rolling Eyes

by **Nick Peter** Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:18 am

Sayf wrote:preid still hasnt told us why Christians are allowed to consume pork when Jesus (as) never gave permission to

Because you're a blind fool and can't think for yourself.

by **Doc** Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:06 am

iCheese wrote:
Sayf wrote:preid still hasnt told us why Christians are allowed to consume pork when Jesus (as) never gave permission to

Because you're a blind fool and can't think for yourself.

are you preid or a christian?

and i can't think for myself just because I adhere to the truth? if you want to eat a creature that doesn't just commit infanticide but readily eats it own young, feces, has cannibalistic tendencies and eats just about anything?

now we know who has been spreading swine flu around Rolling Eyes

by **Nick Peter** Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:17 am

Sayf wrote:
are you preid or a christian?

and i can't think for myself just because I adhere to the truth? if you want to eat a creature that doesn't just commit infanticide but readily eats it own young, feces, has cannibalistic tendencies and eats just about anything?

now we know who has been spreading swine flu around

I'm Nick. I always have been. I am an athiest. I am gay. Do you have a problem with that?

You aren't adhering to the truth. The truth is something with actual, physical data and evidence. There is not an ounce of truth of God, Jesus Christ or any of that bullshit.

Just because the animal does it doesn't mean it's unhealthy to consume. I had pork for dinner tonight, and holy crap I'm not dying right now.

We also know what country the Spanish Flu came from, and that killed millions of people. Do you avoid Spanish food?

by **preid1220** Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:57 am

We eat pork because there is nothing wrong with it, you dont because Muslims originated in the middle east where the pig did not developed the same as in europe. what i am trying to say is the development is because of cultural differences that are no longer important in the modern world.

by **The Banker** Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:02 pm

This is real long but read it..
the stuff in small print after da stuff about J. H. Kellogg...

http://www.giveshare.org/Health/porkeatdanger.html

by **Egyptian Gazelle** Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:26 pm

preid1220 wrote:We eat pork because there is nothing wrong with it, you dont because Muslims originated in the middle east where the pig did not developed the same as in europe. what i am trying to say is the development is because of cultural differences that are no longer important in the modern world.

Actually Egypt has a loooooooooot of pigs....

by **Steve** Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:07 pm

Egyptian Gazelle wrote:Just to go back a little, pigs are the most disgusting and filthy animals on the face of this earth!Even if I wasn't Muslim I wouldn't dare eat them!

Sayf wrote: if you want to eat a creature that doesn't just commit infanticide but readily eats it own young, faeces, has cannibalistic tendencies and eats just about anything?

http://www.gan.ca/animals/pigs.en.html

- Pigs are very clean animals. In fact, pigs are some of the cleanest animals around. They like to maintain separate eating sleeping and defecation areas. When given the room and freedom to decide, pigs choose to be clean and tidy.

oh and marwa, do you realise your link was based on information from 1897?

by **Doc** Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:12 pm

iCheese wrote:
Sayf wrote:
are you preid or a christian?

and i can't think for myself just because I adhere to the truth? if you want to eat a creature that doesn't just commit infanticide but readily eats it own young, feces, has cannibalistic tendencies and eats just about anything?

now we know who has been spreading swine flu around

I'm Nick. I always have been. I am an athiest. I am gay. Do you have a problem with that?

You aren't adhering to the truth. The truth is something with actual, physical data and evidence. There is not an ounce of truth of God, Jesus Christ or any of that bullshit.

Just because the animal does it doesn't mean it's unhealthy to consume. I had pork for dinner tonight, and holy crap I'm not dying right now.

We also know what country the Spanish Flu came from, and that killed millions of people. Do you avoid Spanish food?

I really don't care what or who you are, but it seems like you have a problem with my beliefs and I definitely have a problem with that ...

There are proofs everywhere of the existence of God, the prophets etc. but you're far too blind to see them ...

and your analogy is laughable and false, Spanish flu is a type of avian flu, originating from birds and poultry .. clearly you don't know that diseases found in animals (such as AIDS, avian or swine flu) are transmitted to humans from the consumption of the carriers, which happen to be animals.

preid1220 wrote:We eat pork because there is nothing wrong with it, you dont because Muslims originated in the middle east where the pig did not developed the same as in europe. what i am trying to say is the development is because of cultural differences that are no longer important in the modern world.

obviously there is if you believe in the bible:

1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, 2 "Say to the Israelites: 'Of all the animals that live on land, these are the ones you may eat: 3 You may eat any animal that has a split hoof completely divided and that chews the cud.

4 " 'There are some that only chew the cud or only have a split hoof, but you must not eat them. The camel, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is ceremonially unclean for you. 5 The coney, [a] though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you. 6 The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you. 7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you. (Leviticus 11:1-

by **Steve** Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:13 pm

swine flu doesn't come from pigs either sayf.

by **Doc** Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:15 pm

Master Steve wrote:swine flu doesn't come from pigs either sayf.

you're just an idiot .. swine flue originates from swine you fool ... now you're going to tell me avian flu doesn't come from birds?

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