There are countless ways to know that salt and fresh water don't mix

Well you need to tell me how an illiterate man during the years in the 600s (1,400 years ago) living in the desert...was able to figure that out

Umm... If he was illiterate, how did he write the Qu'ran?

He didn't write it.

Then who did?

Also, if God made the universe, who/what made God? It would have to be even more powerful than God wouldn't it?

It was all memorized. That's a miracle of the Qur'an. Eventhough its hundreads of pages long...people memorized it. After the Prophet's death the companions of the Prophet wrote it though,

How was it memorized?

You memorise it. Just like how you memorised your name. I myself, memorised about 40 pages...but like usual since I dont practice...I forgot

Today, Millions of Muslims memorised the Quran by heart. That's a miracle of the Qur'an.

How does any of this prove that religion is correct?

The real question should be: can you prove religion true?

Well I belive that only 1 religion is true...not religions

Also so far you didn't tell me how a man 1400 could have discovered what we have been discussing.

well, they did have fresh water, just so you know

And anyone could see that salt and fresh water don't mix

I'll continue this later, I have to take a shower now

Really...how?

And ok, reply when you are ready...

Note: This is my very first argument and it took 3 pages so far...I have tons more examples lol

See... This is why I don't want to argue about religion. It NEVER ends
Also, couldn't he have known that from a philosopher who figured it out?

No one figured it out before the Prophet. Nevertheless, Ill imagine you cant answer me and Ill continue

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At the beginning of 1990, there appeared press-releases in the well-known newspapers of the world declaring “Fabled Lost Arabian city found”, “Arabian city of Legend found”, “The Atlantis of the Sands, Ubar”. What rendered this archaeological find more intriguing was the fact that this city was also referred to in the Qur’an. Many people who, since then, thought that ‘Ad recounted in the Qur’an were a legend or that their location could never be found, could not conceal their astonishment at this discovery. The discovery of this city, which was only mentioned in oral stories of Bedouins, awoke great interest and curiosity.

Well, what was it that proved this city to be the city of the people of ‘Ad mentioned in the Qur’an?

Right from the moment remains started to be unearthed, it was understood that this ruined city belonged to ‘Ad and of Iram’s pillars mentioned in the Qur’an, because among the structures unearthed were the towers particularly referred to in the Qur’an. A member of the research team leading the excavation, Dr. Zarins, said that since the towers were alleged to be the distinctive feature of Ubar, and since Iram was mentioned as having towers or pillars, this then was the strongest proof so far that the site they had unearthed was Iram, the city of ‘Ad described in the Qur’an. The Qur’an mentions Iram as follows:

Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the 'Ad (people),- Of the (city of) Iram, with lofty pillars, The like of which were not produced in (all) the land? (The Holy Qur'an: Surat al-Fajr, 6-8 )

1. Ubar, could only be seen from space before excavations were made.

2. A city 12 metres below the sands was uncovered by excavations.

How could the Prophet how known abotu this city?

It wasn't covered 1400 years ago

It was...

Look:



See that large hole, it was deep in there...I don't think 1400 would have covered it so much underground.

it could have been partially underground 1400 years ago

Ok, Fang, I won't argue much this time.

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The Qur'an said:

"God is the One who created the night, the day, the sun, and the moon. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion" (21:33).

Today science proved, using extermly high technology, that not only does the moon travel in an orbit...but the sun also travels in an orbit.

How could a normal man have figured that out 1400 years ago Fang?

Because there were philosophers 1400 years ago who told him

Fang wrote:Because there were philosophers 1400 years ago who told him

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Fang you hsve got to be kidding me...

Be objective and tell em the genius philosopher who could have known such a thing

As I said, this was very recently discovered by science

Well, just so you know, the Bible is changed a lot, and I'm pretty sure the Qu'ran is too. That might have not been in it way back then.

Off subject: did you know that the Bible NEVER mentioned hell?

I say science is the truth. without science , we would not understand much of the world today, and it is the big bang that created the world. the "gods" are actually extraterrestrials trying to help humans live better by saying someone is above you protecting all(Come, flying chariots did not exist, or a early human made flying machine)

I object, i say all words from those who worship the true god have there truths but as a catholic i believe Jesus was and is the son of god. surly the Catholic, the Jewish, and the Islamic people can get along with our shared faith to the lord.

Fang wrote:Well, just so you know, the Bible is changed a lot, and I'm pretty sure the Qu'ran is too. That might have not been in it way back then.

Off subject: did you know that the Bible NEVER mentioned hell?

We actually have some of the original manuscripts of the Qur'an ... besides, the Qur'an was committed to memory anyway ... but there is more than enough evidence to suggest that what was revelaed to the prophets is not found in the Bible ...

Fang wrote:Well, just so you know, the Bible is changed a lot, and I'm pretty sure the Qu'ran is too. That might have not been in it way back then.

Off subject: did you know that the Bible NEVER mentioned hell?

Wrong. The Qur'an NEVER changed. The very first Qur'an that was written is now in Turkey...compare it and you'll find the same as today's.

I do agree however, that the Bible is corrupt since it got edited numeorus times.