Well I lost lots of land today due to Milan, Spain, Portugal and HRE.

But this was my favorite battle...all that I captured in war (The number in paranthesis) from HRE....

I executed them.

too harsh...I guess now you are planning to get the land back?

I'll try...stupid Milan...

Also any geeneral coudl either be cruel or chivalrous...I make them all cruel

any thing particular about Milan?

make a super army on your little island then with the largest fleet you have send it to the heart or Rome and the the pope

"little island" lol... so, how did the conquest plans go?

Utterly horrible.
I hardly have any territory left on Europe-proper. I just have 2 or 3. Spain, Milan, HRE and Portugal had conquered it.

To save what was left of my empire, I agreed to lose my independence and soverignety to Spain, this amde them become my allies, and they stopped attacking.

So I continued to attack HRE and Milan and got much territory, but soon they got it back. I later agreed to be a vassal to Denmark too (lol).

Also the Timurids came. They are a muslim faction, lead by Timur, whom the narrator said, they ahev coqnuered nearby Persia and distant India. They are also knwon as "Mongols with elephants"
Poland, Hungary, Russia have been eliminated. That's in addition to the Byzantine emprie that got eliminated before.
London's population has stopped growing, so I need to wait a while before I can turn into a huge sity, so I could build ports that could build Carracks...the ships that I need to get to the new world.
ALmsot all popes now have been coming from HRE, so I just get excommunicated all the time (But at least now there are 7 catholic factions.)
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Hassan I hate Milan because since they come from Italy, they remind me of Rome, which reminds me of Pried
Also I just noticed this but there are 3 Italian factions: Venice, Milan and Sicily.

There colors are Red, Green and grey. In RTW the 3 Roman families are the colors of Red, Green and blue...

well Ahmed whats it mean to make someone your vassal? (someone asked me to become my vassal but i killed them)

For vassels you get part of their income and military access. (Along with the usual trade rights and map info.) They give you all this in exchange for an alliance and defense, since if you have a vassal you must have a big nation and military and they must have only one area left with no military and crappy income. Having military access doesn't mean you can move into their cities or control their units, it only means you can move freely within their territory without pissing them off. But if it ever gets to the point to where you can get a country to be your vassel, you should just finish them off because the income from the captured city/castle will give you more than the tribute of the vassel. Plus if you attack the vassels allies, they might betray you and then you'll have a full stack of units behind your front lines free to take any city it pleases. To prevent that, have a decent size army camp in a fort just outside their city/castle.

Some people don't find havign vassals worh it because you would get more icome if you finish them off.

interesting developments...does giving your independence to spain makes you kind of a colony of spain?

Pretty much...I also gave my independece to Denmark lol

and once you get the power you march onto Rome and kill the pope right? (my friend would kick your but in this game he all ready owns all of the old world and is about to invade America.

Well no...the Pope can't be killed...I think...unless you assasinate him...not sure...

But once I get power, first Ill finsih off Denamrk, then Spain.

no you can kill the pope trust me.

Well I guess that's possible if you siege and defeat the city that the pope is in...

preid, have you killed the pope yet?

i can not kill the pope for i live before Jesus :affraid: but my friend has killed the pope multiple times and likes to brag about it, he just like a general.

okay...ask him how he did it!

I said before, you could kill him with an assassin..highly trained assassin anyways,,,

he took over the city the pope is in and kill him (he's like a gen)

Yes I know Pried

i was telling hassan! also you could just use 100 low level assassins odds are one would get him)

I don't think I want to waste that much money...

so, what's the update?