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Do you believe torture is ethical or that it is efficient? and that governments should use it?
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You mean like how bush and hsi army did to the Iraqis in Abu Ghraib?
Never!! It is inhumane to torture anything.
But it surprises me where humanity is heading when they make massive commotions when a dog gets totured...and when thousands of humans get tortured...its all hush hush.
Never!! It is inhumane to torture anything.
But it surprises me where humanity is heading when they make massive commotions when a dog gets totured...and when thousands of humans get tortured...its all hush hush.
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Exactly... and they weasel water-boarding out of the "Torture" category because it doesnt "Physiclly" hurt
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Icehawk look at these tortures:
https://newhorizons.forumotion.com/anything-in-general-f4/in-the-name-of-democracy-t1629.htm
https://newhorizons.forumotion.com/anything-in-general-f4/in-the-name-of-democracy-t1629.htm
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I do not feel proud to be an american after reading that
Hassan- NH Retired Moderator
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I think that torture is injustice...its wrong, its harsh, and it is against an individual's human rights
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I think torture is terrible. Most of the time people die before you get what you want. Interrogation and bartering are the way to go.
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I agree. but interrogation often involve torture
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True, but tortue in interrogation can easily be avoided. For example, if you are interrogating someone as a suspect for robbery the interrogaters could say they will kill his family. If the guy actaully cares about his family and tells them the info then its all smiles. 
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lol...lies...too wrongs do not make a right!
metal returns- NH Member
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Sometimes they do. For example if some1 stole some1's cookie and another person stole it to give it back to the first person it equals two wrongs make a right.
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that's called poetic justice
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Poetry teaches us a lot 
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lo, poetic justice is kind of a literary device. read here: http://contemporarylit.about.com/cs/literaryterms/g/poeticJustice.htm
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No difference in justice or revenge. Except that someone who wasn't hurt is the one who is deciding whether or nto that person is guilty.
Also, torture to an extent is ok. I may just be inhumane, but in war, as long as you don't do anything that wouldn't normally be accepted for police at home, then there is nothing wrong with it
Also, torture to an extent is ok. I may just be inhumane, but in war, as long as you don't do anything that wouldn't normally be accepted for police at home, then there is nothing wrong with it
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How do you see the use of white phosporus and dime bombs Flame?
P.S.: White phosphorus bombs basically don't leave a mark on you from the outside but melts your body organs from the isnide...and it never turns off, ebacsue once the phosphorus sees oxygen fromt he air, it starts burning again.
DIme bombs are basically dense metallic "Knives" which it once hits a person a body part gets cut off, weather it be a whole arm, neck, leg etc.
P.S.: White phosphorus bombs basically don't leave a mark on you from the outside but melts your body organs from the isnide...and it never turns off, ebacsue once the phosphorus sees oxygen fromt he air, it starts burning again.
DIme bombs are basically dense metallic "Knives" which it once hits a person a body part gets cut off, weather it be a whole arm, neck, leg etc.
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I was tortured for 10 hrs today ... I need to change my lab ...
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torture is a part of human as is revenged, greed, murder, hate, and war. we are all disgusting beings when you think about it but what is man but a copy of god?
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preid1220 wrote:torture is a part of human as is revenged, greed, murder, hate, and war. we are all disgusting beings when you think about it but what is man but a copy of god?
conflicting views here, preid: the distinction between God and human. but that's not the topic. Indeed torture is rather natural, but you can try to control it throw laws and such!
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laws are a mask for weak men don't you agree?
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a proper legal system is a guarantee of peace
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but a flawed one will all ways hold dominance for politics are corrupt.
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that's why we must be careful while making laws
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but it is not us whom make them now is it?
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mostly, and if the laws are wrong and old, we can always correct them