The impact of the election

Is this the change you are talking about Hassan?

is it real?

Yes, there are real clips. Obama said these words in that conference.


*Takes out Newspaper "Metro"*

Also what I said about the son of a terrorist for head of cabinet is true:

"Rahm Emanuel is by far one of the most conservative politicions on the left side of the aisle. As a member of the New Democrat Coaliation, Emanuel and his comrades have disregarded environemnetal considerations....Emanuel has repeatedly voted in favor of Goerge Bush's reckless and dangerous military expenditnutures and has been a hradcore supporter of the Iraq war.

Perhaphs most disturbing about Emanuel is his stance on israel. As a feverent zionist, he is further to the right than Presidnet Bush on all Israeli-related issue. From isreal's assassination nation policy to well documented human right abuses. Emanuel has failed to offer the slightest critique of America's most coverted Ally. Of course, it is not difficult to find the fillial source of Emanuel's stances : His father, Benjamin Emanuel, was a well-known gun-runner for Irgun, a pre-Israel terroirst organization"

-Written by Marc Lamont Hill on the "Metro" newspaper.

We just had 8 years of bush, not lets have a cup of obama to swallow it all up.

it sounds like you dont like obama

He's been saying what he's saying on a consistent basis, this should'nt come as a shock to anyone who has been paying the slightest bit of attention to this election. What more can come out of a son of a Murtadd?

In urdu there is a famous verse which roughly translates into
"it is the beginning of doom, cry not just yet, watch what happens tomorrow".

I guess we have to watch just how much of his 'promises' does he actually fulfills, to either side. "we shall see".

Hassan wrote:In urdu there is a famous verse which roughly translates into
"it is the beginning of doom, cry not just yet, watch what happens tomorrow".

I guess we have to watch just how much of his 'promises' does he actually fulfills, to either side. "we shall see".

Wishful thinking bro, you really believe that he's going to turn back on policies that he has so readily established?

No, because if he does he will lose support among voters.

I am just waiting for his economic plan to be implemented. I have serious doubts that it will work in a long term scenario.

Hassan wrote:No, because if he does he will lose support among voters.

I am just waiting for his economic plan to be implemented. I have serious doubts that it will work in a long term scenario.

Who cares about the economic plans?!

The economy comes second to his policies towards "israel" and the mid-east.

@Sayf: Well, I really haven't been paying the slightest attention to any of their speeches. All I knew was that Obama was difefernt because he is a demorcrat, but I was wrong.

Hassan, the only promises that he did give was pro-israel, therefore the only promises that he could fulfill are those policies.

Hassan wrote:No, because if he does he will lose support among voters.

I am just waiting for his economic plan to be implemented. I have serious doubts that it will work in a long term scenario.

I'm sure his supporters know his policies ... unless they neglected to learn what they actually were or just assumed otherwise ..

And if you live in this country than you would be concerned with his economic plans, Ahmed ... for it effects you more immediately than the issues overseas do ..

Not really Sayf, I look at it like this: Either way, you will be paying higher tax prices this year, and the US has earned its economic recission for wanting to play Police of all the countries...so I don't really care much...

But does that really helps? While I, for one, do not support the "manifest destiny" or the "white man's burden" I must say that we must negotiate, talk, work with, the so-called global powers, so that those people, those poor people in a sub-rural part of Pakistan whom I watched on TV yesterday, can have money to eat, to pay their bills, could have jobs. We need to work together, in spite of our differences, so that God's greatest creation, the humans, are able to live, in Africa, in India, in Kashmir, all around the globe, with dignity and resources.

This being said, I highly doubt that Obama's plan, both economic and foreign, will help reduce the people's suffering. This is why I said that I am waiting for that to be implemented, to see what happens.

OK, Hassan, show me where "talking" will reach you. Since day 1 Ms. Rice has said, "we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year"

Next year :"we feel we can create peace in the middle east and create a Palestinian state by this year"-at the end of the year "it is not possible this year and sorry we must leave now, my term ended."


Is this the talk you speak of?

Ms.Rice went to the mid-east 18 times to "talk". Nothing happened

You are misunderstanding me. You know that that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about just, bi, or perhaps trilateral talks on equality basis, something, again, I doubt Obama will ever do. And since when did I said I agreed with Bush administration and his policies?

Hassan Wrote: "I must say that we must negotiate, talk, work with, the so-called global powers"

You think that negotiation works, or not?

To me, I see no difference between a donkey and an elephant. They are both animals.

But I think that these animals have big differences among them, as humans are also part of the Animalia kingdom.

Negotiations work when the parties are, at least on the mindset, on an equal standing.

No humans are not animals Hassan. I don't believe in such a conspiracy.

"Negotiations are the losers excuse tom doing nothing"-Ahmed IV

Its a very wise quote Hassan