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    Hitler - pure evil or great leader

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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:04 pm

    Hey guys, :wave:

    For an assinment we had to look at some famous character from history. I chose Adolf Hitler. After reading his bio and talking to people around me, i found everyone was 100% against him. Reading through what he did and how he used new and out of the box tactic to reunite germany was amazing. i was quite annoyed to read every bio on him being biased to him being a villian.

    Mi opinion on him is,

    -he was a great leader
    -he was persistent and determined (being knocked back from art school twice he kept on going)
    -he was the leading man in the deaths of an estimated 14 million ppl .... BUT

    i do believe that he was at some level mentally upset. as a child he was said to be repeatedly beaten by his father, he grew up with ppl who were always against the jews, and at ne stage he was attacked by an enemy soilder with a poisionous gas - (later it was claimed this was where the idea for the gas chambers)

    all in all i do believe that Hitler was a great man, he did what he personally believed was for the greater good of all of Germany, if we had more leaders even half as passionate for their country as he was i do believe wed be living in a better world, just imagine if hitler had taken over the reat of the world!!

    anyway guys i now have to do a 8 minute presentation on hitler if anyone has even a tiny opinion on this please reply with what u think.

    id love to hear what u have to say what u agree with what u disagree with and anything else

    ta guys!


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    Post by Steve Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:09 pm

    i think he was pushed into being anti jews by the german population, it was a very popular stance which contributed greatly in their trust of him
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:13 pm

    Steve wrote:i think he was pushed into being anti jews by the german population, it was a very popular stance which contributed greatly in their trust of him


    I completeley agree, seriously i think he seriously did not believe he was doing anything wrong. with the way he grew up it was a mindset believed to be right
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    Post by Steve Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:26 pm

    but what he did was terrible, he is probably one of the best known and most hated people who has ever lived, i dont think the world would be better if he won the war. I think any life can be important to the development of the human race, killing all those people would in my oppinion leave us less developed all these years on
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:30 pm

    hmm yer

    this subjects hard due to the death of over 14 million ppl

    but he did great things

    one of the quirky things about hitler was that the trains always ran on time, if a train ever arrived late he shot the driver

    but i dont think hitler put much value on life, his or anyone elses but i think that comes from his childhood
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    Post by Steve Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:39 pm

    why did he like blonde hair and blue eyes so much when he was so opposite?

    theres lots of things i dont know about him, the germans were powerful though and he showed us what they can do with the right kind of leader
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:48 pm

    hmm yer me and mi couz didnt no much bout him so we looked him up but seriously what was up with that y would u try to extirmiate ppl like u

    but yer he had great leadership but when the war turned on him he went a little nuts he ordered no one to surrender even when there was no way they could have won

    basically his stoy is

    -he was austrian
    -he was beaten as a child
    -he wanted to b an artist but was told he wasnt talented enough
    -he got out of being in the army for a while but then wanted to be in it
    -after being in the militar he worked his way into polotics
    -he used the great depression and by blaming the jews for all of the germans problems he got heaps of surport
    -he started attacking other countrie with huge success
    -when britian and america attacked it quickly turned sour
    -he wouldnt let any one back down
    -when he knew his time was up he took his oown life
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    Post by Steve Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:58 pm

    well i guess he must of been quite determined, when your goal is as big as his was i guess the lives of hundreds of soiders who die in a fight they couldnt win doesnt look like much.

    Thanks for teaching me something new Smile
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:04 pm

    lol

    well as much fun as talking to u is
    u really havent helped me much...
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    Post by Steve Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:10 pm

    sorry i havent been much help, allmost everything i see about the war is normally about the camps or from thee jews point of veiw, have yoyu ever seen shindlers list?
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    Post by Grimmjow Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:14 pm

    wasnt he a gay jew yet he hated them both
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:23 pm

    i havent seen it whats it bout
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    Post by Steve Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:33 pm

    its a true story about a man who used PoW jews to make things in a factory, but after witnessing the horror of their lives he starts to try and save them, it was made in 1993 and its still worth a watch Wink
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:44 pm

    kool i love history so it sounds great
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:48 pm

    He was a evil man if you ask me, but he was very efishant. instead of just killing the jews he made them work fuleing his war. i think him a crule evil man but he was also incredobly smart... even if he had no idea how to paint
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:51 pm

    lol yer

    its a thin line between genieus and insane
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    Post by Grimmjow Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:52 pm

    it is weird though if hes gay and a jew but hates them both. his painting i heard he can paint fast but his painting was horrible
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:56 pm

    lol yer was it ever actually proven he was gay

    and yer how weird his grem was jewish and yet he resented them
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    Post by Grimmjow Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:57 pm

    i think it actually was proven
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:07 pm

    hmm if he was beaten as a kid maybe he had some kind of idk.... um hatred of himself and his family

    and how gross they recon he had a sexual relationship with his neice
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    Post by Grimmjow Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:08 pm

    he had relations with his niece Shocked i never heard that. i heard his middle name was elizabeth though
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:13 pm

    lol

    yer id never heard that


    hmm what else do u no bout him i need an 8 minute speech!!
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    Post by Grimmjow Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:14 pm

    he has his middle name because of a long line of english queens but not exactly england
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    Post by den denz Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:17 pm

    lol

    imagine a guy with that middle name today
    he would b bagged out big time
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    Post by Event Master preid1220 Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:18 pm

    to torcher people he wuld tie them up in piano wire and hange then from there privates

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