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    Post by Ahmed Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:26 pm

    I am up to the worst thing in math IMO. So if anyone could help it would be appreciated.
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    In how many ways can four men and four women be seated in a row of eight seats if:

    (a) The women are to be seated together, and the men are to be seated together?
    (b) They are to be seated alternately by gender.
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    Post by preid1220 Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:12 pm

    my head hurts.
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:00 pm

    for (a) is it all the women seated together and all them men seated together?
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:08 pm

    I don't get what you are saying Marwa...?
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:11 pm

    like do the women have to sit together in groups of 4 or can we gave 2 groups of 2?
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:15 pm

    The women have to sit together.
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:16 pm

    well innit 2 for both (a) and (b)
    O.O
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:25 pm

    No...not at all. The women could change seats between them. And so can the men.
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:30 pm

    ahmed.. do u know the answers???
    i got 96 for (a)
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:41 pm

    and i got a crazy number for (b) O.O
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:03 pm

    The answer for both is 1152.
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:24 pm

    kkz..
    so we'll start with the order
    M1M2M3M4W1W2W3W4
    so lets look at the men..
    M1M2M3M4 (thats 1)
    M1M2M4M3 (thats 2)
    M1M3M2M4 (thats 3)
    ... etc (we'll be here for eva)
    so what we do is 4! which equals 24
    so there are 24 different ways the men can be seated in

    now lets have a look at the women...
    4! = 24
    so there are 24 different ways to seat the women..
    the Q wants all the men together AND all the women together
    so using the "and or rule" 24*24=576

    but you can have the men on the right OR the men on the left
    so again.. using the "and or rule" 576+576 = 1152

    capiche?
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:25 pm

    "but you can have the men on the right OR the men on the left
    so again.. using the "and or rule" 576+576 = 1152"

    ^^^That's the only step that I didn't do. Thanks!
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    Post by The Banker Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:28 pm

    any time man...
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    Post by Ahmed Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:32 pm

    Ill give you a "Thanks"

    Thanks=3 reps
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    Post by GunMan Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:42 pm

    a) (4*3*2*1*4*3*2*1)*2 = 1152
    b) (4*4*3*3*2*2*1*1)*2 = 1152



    (a) The women are to be seated together, and the men
    are to be seated together?
    (b) They are to be seated alternately by
    gender.

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