Do find the killing of a mentally challenged person as wrong or right?

Right:

-He is a harm to himself
-He is a harm to others

Wrong:

-He deserves to live just like any other.
-Its not up to others, to relax him from his pains (craziness)

I think of it this way....in nature, a mentally ill person would die, like it or not. Sure, one or two can get by but most mentally ill people will die by natural selection. The only good they do by existing is provide jobs, special ed teachers and aids. Other than that, waste of food and time that could be spent on the average person.

In fact, G-d, Allah, whatever name you wish to give him/her/it never wanted mentally ill people to exist. There was another woman besides Eve, Lilith. Adam impregnated her and then G-d banished Lilith because she was evil....or as I believe "Crap....forgot about genetics" and then he made Eve who Adam also banged and that would prevent retardation.

Sadly, we had to go and **** our cousins or have mentally ill apt genes.

To some things up, kill em.....unless they can function on their own from the get go, if not, kill em.

That's not true Theory. Most mental people live the normal average life, if they are taken care of. What could shorten their life spans is deficiencies and other biological/physical problems.

Well I never heard of such a story, about Lilith, as you say. But what I do know, is God is the Know-er of all things. He didn't create anyone by "accident"-as you make it seem.

(P.S.: Allah just means "God" in Arabic, it's not a name : )

If you or anyone has read of the story called "Of Mice and Men" you would understand my point.

I mean like how barbaric have humans become? To save a cat or dog, the world would do everything it can to stop it from dieing.

Why should a person die for something that's not up to his will?

Lets just kill everybody, I mean it's no big deal, we're all going to die anyway

Ahmed IV wrote:

Why should a person die for something that's not up to his will?

well, right now human population control would be good, what better place to start than mentally ill folk?

No, I think if you want to minimize the populationa bit, teach people about birth control rather than going and killing people.

Ahmed IV wrote:

No, I think if you want to minimize the populationa bit, teach people about birth control rather than going and killing people.

Having sex with a condom is about as much fun as brushing your teeth with a dry toothbrush....this knowledge is not from person experience

Besides, making more regulations on this will only make it more "exciting" to do it unprotected

Theory wrote:

Ahmed IV wrote:

No, I think if you want to minimize the populationa bit, teach people about birth control rather than going and killing people.

Having sex with a condom is about as much fun as brushing your teeth with a dry toothbrush....this knowledge is not from person experience

Besides, making more regulations on this will only make it more "exciting" to do it unprotected

What does this have to do with the debate, in general?

Ahmed IV wrote:

No, I think if you want to minimize the populationa bit, teach people about birth control rather than going and killing people.

Birth control includes the use of condoms

I know, but my poitn was that you don't need to kill people to slow down the quickly growing population. You just took that post and it seems you are startign a branch topic off of it.

Is this a sign of weakness on your part of the debate

Before I say anything else, I just want to say that this reminds me of Of Mice and Man.

It think that mentally disabled people should not be killed just because they are so. This is not only cruel but also inhumane. Other ways, such as treatment and close observation should be implemented.

Ahmed IV wrote:

I know, but my poitn was that you don't need to kill people to slow down the quickly growing population. You just took that post and it seems you are startign a branch topic off of it.

Is this a sign of weakness on your part of the debate

Well excuse me for posting.....I'm only giving possibilities, damn

Just wanted to point that out Theory, so we stick on track...so any more arguments?

Theory, please do not curse. It will bring down your rep, you know.

We are on the same side, Ahmed. No killing!

If I cared about my rep at anytime....I'd long ago commit suicide methinks

Well I don't want to go off-topic, but a quick comment to what you said:

What is a person more than actions, and the the reflection of your actions on people's thoughts about you

I don't care what people think of me.....if I did, once again, I would have long ago committed suicide.

but keeping people's view in mind helps us get our acts straight too

Let's focus on the debate everyone.

I would, again, say that killing some one mentally disabled is just plain wrong!!!

yh it does remind me of "Of mice and men"
George had no right to kill Lenny, even if Lenny can't think 4 himself.
Carlson had no right 2 kill da dog just coz da dog was a waste of space.
same goez 4 ppl........

a person does not deserve to dies coz they are mentally challanged..
if ur gonna kill all da ppl with mental problemz... u'll have the same mentality as Adolf Hitler
He thought ppl that have a different race, disability...etc (ie: he thought they were a waste of space) had to die...

killing ppl that are mentally challanged coz they are a waste of space would be the same crime as that of Hitler's
if we do not learn from what happened in history then how else are we gonna learn?? wouldn't it be REALLY stupid to do the same mistake over and over and over again??

Overall i believe killing mentally challanged ppl is 110% WRONG!

I'm against the death penalty altogether

Fang wrote:

I'm against the death penalty altogether

but what if someone killed someone else.... shouldn't they deserve to die??

Marwa wrote:

yh it does remind me of "Of mice and men"
George had no right to kill Lenny, even if Lenny can't think 4 himself.

George killed Lenny because curly was going to kill him, and curly would make him suffer where George killed him painlessly when he was doing his favourite thing.

Also

Marwa wrote:

but what if someone killed someone else.... shouldn't they deserve to die??

Lenny had killed someone else.

Steve wrote:

Marwa wrote:

yh it does remind me of "Of mice and men"
George had no right to kill Lenny, even if Lenny can't think 4 himself.

George killed Lenny because curly was going to kill him, and curly would make him suffer where George killed him painlessly when he was doing his favourite thing.

Also

Marwa wrote:

but what if someone killed someone else.... shouldn't they deserve to die??

Lenny had killed someone else.

but lenny was mentally challanged... he didn't know what he was doing.