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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:08 pm | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:05 pm | |
| was there a topic about this earlier?
no they shouldn't btw. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:23 pm | |
| Yeah, but its too old and I got a fresh article.
Why do you think so Steve? | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:58 pm | |
| because they belong to whoever own them. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:14 pm | |
| And who really does own them Steve? The Egyptians or the British?
If someone goes to you and steals items from your house, does that mean it is rightfully his and he shouldn't give it back? | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:38 pm | |
| thats different. its like land, governments fight over it and in the end of the day people can spend their time debating who it really belongs to. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:39 pm | |
| No, it is not like land. They are like items in other words artifacts. By another country taking it it is known as theft. | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:43 pm | |
| during a time of war these things happen. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:46 pm | |
| Oh! You mean when England "colonized" Egypt. That is no longer the case, so why can't the artifacts be returned? | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:56 pm | |
| if you came into a million dollars tomorow, then someone aasked you for that money would you give it to them? | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:04 pm | |
| If the money belonged to him, Ill give it to him, as it is not rightfully mines. | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:13 pm | |
| its just a question about ownership. this conversation goes around in circle so im stepping out now. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:18 pm | |
| No it doesn't Steve -____- , just admit it. Who rightfully owns the EGYTPIAN artfiacts, the Egyptians or the British?! You obviouly stepped out becasue you know I am right, and you have no point | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:23 pm | |
| we discovered them, we own them. it was the law at the time. the Americans even tried it with the moon.. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:06 am | |
| "it was the law at the time"
Alright, could we have them now? | |
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Hassan NH Retired Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:36 am | |
| Ahmed, this is a very complex issue. When it comes to these artifacts, you have to look at the context. The British, I guess being running the government, had a total control of the use of these artifacts. And,as the articles says, this particular artifact is in the possession of museums. the question of returning it to the country it was found in is somewhat doubtful because the artifact is with a private collector not the state, and they actually bought it... | |
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Steve NH Member
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:54 am | |
| right and Americans should move out of their country and give it back to the native Americans. | |
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Ahmed NH Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should artifacts return? Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:21 pm | |
| - Hassan wrote:
- Ahmed, this is a very complex issue. When it comes to these artifacts, you have to look at the context. The British, I guess being running the government, had a total control of the use of these artifacts. And,as the articles says, this particular artifact is in the possession of museums. the question of returning it to the country it was found in is somewhat doubtful because the artifact is with a private collector not the state, and they actually bought it...
Read the article Hassan, it was stolen. It is agaisnt the law in Egypt to sell artifacts. Steve we are talking about items that a civlization made, so stop comparing it to land. Steve could I go and steal the stonehedge, it'll look nice with my collection? | |
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